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Re: Fight Chat Control

#211
The EU continues to become a hilariously Soviet nanny state.

Beautiful land and country, but they're destroying their cultures with the third world and seem to just not care about the rights of their citizens.

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#212
post #181

Can someone explain how they could read my e2e Signal chat messages to my wife about what I'm cooking for dinner? Can someone explain how they could read my e2e Sessions chat message sent via TOR to my wife about what I'm cooking for dinner? Genuinely curious. Can those that are in power break this encryption?

Definitely wouldn’t break the encryption itself. I think the way it could work is to send a letter to each of the messaging apps saying that they are now legally required to use the EU’s encryption keys and make the messages available to the EU. Then they would make it so that the apps that don’t comply are not available in the app stores by pressuring google and apple respectively. I think this is the reason why for…

Telegram is not E2EE because it's easier and faster to sync and transmit messages between millions of people. The scale of Telegram groups and channels is massive. Telegram, for a long time, has not complied with law enforcement requests and has made it hard for authorities to get data because of their architecture. You still have Secret Chats for E2EE messaging as an option.

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#213
I'm Italian. On my side, I did what I could do: I emailed Italian politicians explaining why they should reject the proposal. A drop in the ocean, and far from impactful, but if it can change the odds even by an epsilon, why not?

https://gagliardoni.net/#20250805_chatcontrol

Big politics is not my thing, so for me the big effort was: 1) understanding who, among the zillions of politicians we have, could have a direct role in the decisional process and how; 2) searching and collecting the email addresses; and 3) funnily enough, picking the right honorifics (for example, I was not aware that "Onorevole" is reserved only to certain figures in Italian politics).

I shared the resulting effort on my website, in the hope of making life easier for fellow Italians who want to do the same.

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#214

God fucking damn it not again This is, what, the fifth time in ten years they try to pass shit like this?

What do they gain? The only reason I can think of it's that it's deep state control. If there was a conspiracy like that would they be acting much differently?

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#215
post #5

God fucking damn it not again This is, what, the fifth time in ten years they try to pass shit like this?

As Juncker, ex president of European Commision said, you keep trying till it passes at some point. Good luck revoking it later…

Well it's pretty difficult to organize any opposition once they're reading all the messages.

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#216

So what is the real solution? Meaning the solution that an individual could use themselves, without further coordination, to insulate themselves from this policy. Is it an Android distribution? Jailbreaking? Custom builds?

probably worst case side loading tor on android

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#218

In the US, we have government programs like PRISM and unchecked oligopolies that surveil us and use that information to identify dissent, sell us ads, and alter our behavior. In the EU, there are these initiatives to surveil us in the name of safety. Is there any regime out there who's not trying to mass-surveil their citizens for one reason or another?

The price is liberty is eternal vigilance.

Just as you must work each day if you want money, you must oppose tyranny each day if you want liberty.

They will always want more power over you and you will always have to fight them because of that.

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#219

Please also fight mandatory age verification with prison sentences. The European Parliament has already voted in favor of a law that mandates age verification for pornography with a one year prison sentence. It was included as a last minute amendment into this bill [1]. See "Amendment 186". It has been completely missed by news organizations and even interest groups. The full accepted article reads: "Disseminating po…

While this is a specifically awful article, for obvious reasons, I find the idea of encoding specifics on carceral terms into any EU-level directive a bizarre overstep.

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post #38

I was very pissed at this, and when I read this part I couldn't continue, it boiled my blood. > *EU politicians exempt themselves from this surveillance under "professional secrecy" rules. They get privacy. You and your family do not. Demand fairness.

Rules for thee but not for me.
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