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You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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post #185

I want this in Warp. It's a solid terminal, but Claude Code is so good that I don't need my terminal trying to do something similar without me asking it to.

Have you tried foot?

I loved foot but now I gotta use a macbook :(

Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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post #7

This is great. I just hope that they continue to make money. We really need someone to invest in making a Fast, modal editor.

Zed is not a great modal editor, modality is a strapped on afterthought. At least that the impression the vim keybinding give me. IMO the best chance I see for a fast modal editor that works out of the box is Helix.

I at least really like that ctrl-w allows switching between panels as well as editors, something VS code doesn’t do (or at least, you can switch to the explorer but not back?) and is a major papercut IMO

Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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I think this is one of the best innovations in Zed, though it could use some more polish to work really great. Being able to edit the diff directly surely is a great thing?

The problem is that it insists on jamming together all files in the list, each with only a tiny bit of context, when I want to look at things one at a time with full context, and there's no way to change that behavior.

"Alt-Enter" jumps directly to the selected entry in the git side panel. Ctrl-clicking works as well (granted it's not obvious)

Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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post #41

I went from VS Code to Cursor, then got frustrated with Cursor breaking keybindings and other things, tried to go back to VS Code but missed the superior tab completion. Then I gave Zed a long hard try, but after over a month of daily usage I went back to Cursor again, just for the tab completion quality. I don't use any of the chat or agent features, but for me Cursor's tab completion is a step forward in work effic…

I think we don’t talk enough about tab completion model quality. Recently Copilot’s model got a lot better (probably trying to catch up to Cursor) but I feel like there’s still so much room here (and I assume Zeds is worse from your description). Smart context / big context is a really interesting question, I’m kind of surprised Google isn’t building here given how much effort they’ve put into big context (they have…

For Copilot the quality of the tab complete is less of an issue for me than the fact that it is often very slow, or doesn't trigger at all when I would expect it to. I'll sit there feeling like an idiot for 10 seconds and then glance at the bottom bar to discover that it's not even doing inference, and have to randomly move the cursor, or delete and retype code until it finally works.

Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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Started using Zed about a year ago and, besides Magit, it has managed to completely replace Emacs for me. I was missing a good debugger for a long time, but that also went GA a month ago or so. One thing that goes underappreciated is the input latency and how light on resources the editor is overall. Whenever I switch tabs to a web browser (or any web app), I can feel the lag in typing now, despite the fact I use an…

I took Zed for a test drive about a year ago, and absolutely loved how butter smooth it felt to use. It's impossible to describe to others... you must experience it to understand what you're missing.

However, at least at the time, Zed's extension/plugin ecosystem prevented me from making the jump off vscode. Just like it took me a long while to ween myself off JetBrains and their workflow/plugins, it'll take a long while to do the same here - that's if an equivalent plugin exists (yet).

It seems to me, it would be a killer feature for new IDE's to just embrace vscode's extensions and make them "just work". It would remove a lot of the barriers people have with switching IDE's.

Maybe that's an impossible ask... I have no idea, but it would be pretty sweet.

Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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I tried it a couple days ago. Lost me right off with the poor `:e` experience; popup box with no completion, fuzzy-matching, sub-directory support. Vim is a file oriented editor, not a project oriented one, so good file operations are table stakes.

I don’t quite get what Zed’s emulation of :e has to do with being a modal editor. It’s a completely different editor so of course the interface to interact with files is going to be different, but in my experience Zed’s implementation of modality when it comes to its Vim mode is extremely good. Even better than the already excellent NeoVintageous for Sublime Text.

Fair point. I guess the problem is with their (Neo)Vim keybindings, not so much with the modal-editing part. I included it as vim is the most popular modal editor and its keybindings are what are lacking.

Are there any modal editors that are not file-based? Maybe it would be better to say this is a problem with its file-based editor emulation?

Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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post #194
post #124

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Learning a terminal editor will save your ass at 3am when production goes down. No joke.

Learning and wanting to use as a daily driver are very different things. I use vim on my servers and for writing git commit messages. For everything else, I use another editor (used to be Sublime Text, then Vs code, now Zed).

Nailed it. I'm fine with using vim to do remote work. I'm not an expert, but I have enough muscle memory to zip through the things I need to do. I don't want to use it exclusively, though. Turns out I'm capable of learning my way around multiple tools and using different ones in different contexts. Who knew?

Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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post #168

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refrain? they're going full steam on it. they're just not forcing all their users into it, which reflects taste and empathy few other founders have.

Taste and empathy maybe, but their choice of licenses, technologies and priorities can still be juvenile to the point of sinking their company. Just look at the amount of excitement in their industry right now. New IDEs are springing up practically by the week. Are any of these new IDEs based on Zed? No, of course not. GPL closes the door on that, and who would want to own a fork of a tool that's so painful to develo…

With the help of subsecond[0], we're seeing Even without hotpatching, Rust incremental compile times are on the order of 10 seconds, not multiple minutes. Clean compiles still take minutes, but that's a "once-a-week" workflow usually.

Not sure if Zed has gotten it hooked up yet, but things are changing rapidly in the Rust GUI (and games) space because of Dioxus's innovation here.

[0]: https://crates.io/crates/subsecond

Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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post #216

Started using Zed about a year ago and, besides Magit, it has managed to completely replace Emacs for me. I was missing a good debugger for a long time, but that also went GA a month ago or so. One thing that goes underappreciated is the input latency and how light on resources the editor is overall. Whenever I switch tabs to a web browser (or any web app), I can feel the lag in typing now, despite the fact I use an…

I took Zed for a test drive about a year ago, and absolutely loved how butter smooth it felt to use. It's impossible to describe to others... you must experience it to understand what you're missing. However, at least at the time, Zed's extension/plugin ecosystem prevented me from making the jump off vscode. Just like it took me a long while to ween myself off JetBrains and their workflow/plugins, it'll take a long w…

how does it compare to neovim in terms of input lag?
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