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Unsafe and Unpredictable: My Volvo EX90 Experience

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Re: Unsafe and Unpredictable: My Volvo EX90 Experience

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Post by auxym »

bityard wrote: post #154
SecretDreams wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The two main Achilles Heels of Hyundai/Kia are their ICE Engines and their EV ICCUs. Google reliability for both and proceed accordingly. They're good about replacing/fixing both issues when they come up, and normally have extended warranties, but they are critical components too and long lead times to fix. Outside of those issues, which don't happen on all vehicles, I view the brand as pretty rock solid. I'm impress…

I recently got rid of a 2016 Kia Sonata with a severe (and getting worse) oil burning issue. It was well under 100k miles. We really liked the car otherwise overall. Great price, seemed to be made well, easy to work on. The extended warranty on these only applies if you actually blow up engine, which I wasn't willing to do deliberately because I have scruples. (And according to forum threads, at the time this happene…

Do you mean Hyundai Sonata, or another Kia model?

Re: Unsafe and Unpredictable: My Volvo EX90 Experience

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Post by jerlam »

650REDHAIR wrote: post #10
moneycantbuy wrote: post #4

I really want to like volvo, especially their plugin hybrids, but their bad reliability of late is a dealbreaker. No way I'm wasting my life in mechanic hell. I'm patiently looking to upgrade from my great 2018 subaru forester xt touring, but nothing new seems much better.

Volvo hasn’t been a reliable brand since ~2000 when it was sold to Ford. Even less reliable when it was sold to Geely. They’ve essentially skated by on brand recognition earned decades ago.

I had one of the first newly redesigned Volvos after the Ford acquisition, an S80 T6, either the first or second year released in the US. It was a fantastic car - extremely comfortable, fast, and analog controls for everything.

After five or six years it spent more time being repaired than not, and I sold it. It was one of the few times where having an extended warranty paid off. Haven't really considered a Volvo since.

Re: Unsafe and Unpredictable: My Volvo EX90 Experience

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Post by humblebeekeeper »

jonplackett wrote: post #163

I’m just happier and happier with my ‘dumb’ car. It has physical buttons for the aircon. No wifi = no speakers listening to me and selling my personal data (yep that’s a thing) I have to press a button on the key fob to open it so it can’t be stolen by relaying the signal. It’s pretty cheap to run because I hardly drive anywhere anyway. But when I do I just buy this stuff called ‘petrol’ that’s all around the place a…

> I also still get to feel smug because the environmental cost of producing a new electric car is WAY greater than the petrol I’m burning.

Citation very much needed.

Electric cars are still cars, and therefore terrible for the environment, but they do emit significantly less pollution over their lives and require a lot less oil to operate.

Re: Unsafe and Unpredictable: My Volvo EX90 Experience

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Post by FredPret »

rectang wrote: post #162
DyslexicAtheist wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

if it has software it will be enshitted. sadly true

I was a bit surprised to see the the "software" criteria in your reply, as I'd always thought of enshittification's inevitability as a capitalist phenomenon whereby a quality brand is wrung out for near term gains by management incentivized to get their cut before riding off into the sunset. But after reading up a bit, I've found that software platform lock-in was important in enshittification's original formulation…

That's a phenomenon that can be blamed on low-IQ or disengaged owners.

Some companies have owners that are locked in, who know where the true value of their business lies (usually this involves a high quality product), and holds the management to account to keep the golden-egg-laying goose alive.

But other companies are owned by index funds, ETFs, and/or dumb people who don't know or care how things work. These have no defense against enshittifying.

I've bought some products that are of almost egregiously high quality, and nearly 100% of the time there's family ownership, or it's still run by the founders.

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Post by cosmicgadget »

butlike wrote: post #168

Ok. I'm starting to think that the touch displays should have a common interface codified into law. The fact that these interfaces, with no tactile feedback can be completely different softwares with UIs is alarming and dangerous to me.

Acknowledging that this dude is in Canada I still want to entertain the hypothetical of the current US Congress writing vehicle user interface statutes.

Re: Unsafe and Unpredictable: My Volvo EX90 Experience

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Post by gosub100 »

jonplackett wrote: post #151
eckelhesten wrote: post #12

Volvo sadly no longer stands for Swedish quality and safety. What you’re buying is essentially an overpriced Chinese car with Volvo stickers. And I’m saying this as a Swede. Buy German cars, specifically within the Volkswagen auto group (Audi, VW, Skoda etc) if you want reliable quality.

I’m already boycotting VW for emissions-fraud, Tesla for Nazi-salutes… gonna run out of car brands at this rate

Signal that virtue boy!

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Post by glonq »

jerlam wrote: post #202
glonq wrote: post #178

If you're selling cars at that price tier ($150K CAD / $110K USD), you'd better be backing it with top-tier service.

When I saw the price, I thought it was a typo. Volvos aren't the cheapest cars but they're not six figure cars either. The base price (USD) is 81K - after clicking on every single option, I managed to bump it to 105K.

lol i converted from CAD to USD, so the extra $5K is just the being in canada tax i guess.
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