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I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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It was quite strange to read this title this morning as my 15 year old daughter just received her iPhone 13 mini yesterday from Swappie. She too was complaining that the android phones are too big for her little hands. I tried all my reasoning skills to persuade her to stick with android, but ultimately she nagged me into getting a second hand one that is still way too expensive in my opinion. Well it looks like she…

I think she prefers an iphone even if there was a tiny android phone.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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Funny enough, in 2023, Asus released a good very close to iphone Mini-size android phone. The asus zenfone 10. https://www.asus.com/us/mobile-handhelds/phones/zenfone/zenf...

The Zenfone 10 is closer to an iPhone than an iPhone mini. iPhone 16/Zenfone/13 Mini (in mm) Height: 147.6/146.5/131.5 - the mini is 15mm shorter than the Zenfone which is only 1.1mm shorter than an iPhone. Width: 71.6/68.1/64.2 - the mini is 3.9mm thinner than the Zenfone which is 3.5mm thinner than an iPhone Depth: 7.8/9.4/7.7 - the Zenfone is significantly thicker than the iPhones. Volume: 82.4/93.8/65.0 cubic cm…

Commenting just to appreciate this analysis. I totally bought the marketing that this was a small phone, while it seems it just had a small screen.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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We've seen this story play out before. Every phone manufacturer has had the bright idea of introducing a small flagship. They spend a ton of money developing and marketing it. Internet people get excited. And when launched - no one buys it. They learn their lesson and move on.

Slight tangent, I thought nowadays everyone is (are?) internet people. Everyone's on their phone all the time. Even if it's tiktok or instagram, why aren't brands spending to reach this audience.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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Just as an FYI to everyone who thinks such products are financially "infeasible" - look at companies like Unihertz (or heck, even Framework). Niche categories can and do attract a small but devoted following.

Btw:

1. Unihertz recently launched a BlackBerry esque phone (titan 2), if anyone reading this is interested. (Not sponsored by them)

2. There are many forums (and I think r/smallphones on reddit) where you can find much more discussion on such topics if you're interested.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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Except that the screen and the radio are 80% of power usage, so this doesn't help anything. For what most people do with their laptop/tablet/phone, the little bursts of CPU are effectively "free" — increasingly cheap with each process shrink! — while the IO is as expensive as ever.

What fun comment. You are mistaken in so many ways :) When idle GSM uses a lot of power. Listening for a wakeup signal doesnt seem expensive at all. It even seems one could pull off the trick for free. Free There shall be e-paper ofc The brick can have a battery like that of a quality powerbank. For emergency charging the display snaps on top with some magnets. There will be heavy cpu loads with lots of reads and wri…

To be clear, I meant that, when running your average (i.e. mostly-idle, not-very-graphically-intense, yet smoothly-animated) interactive-UI application, with the CPU+GPU module needing to stream vaguely-realtime updates wirelessly over to the display module, the display module would end up using nearly as much battery to receive and display the updates as the CPU+GPU module would be taking to generate and send them. It would be a negligible cost for the display module to just do the rendering itself.

Playing games or using the CPU+GPU module as a media server is a 1%-of-the-time use-case. If you want this architecture to not need a lot of battery in the display module, it needs to be low-power for the 99%-of-the-time use-case: scrolling a webpage.

(This is basically the classical thin-client / fat-client paradox: thin clients save on power right until you want them to do anything continuously. Then the IO costs outweigh the hypothetical costs of localizing that continuous CPU/GPU activity by pushing it down into a fat client.)

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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I used the iPhone SE 1 until January of this year, it was such a great phone and a great form factor. I wrote an article about it to send it off: https://blog.bschwind.com/2025/01/11/the-original-iphone-se-...

the ip12/13 mini have similar footprint, but with modern feature.

Yep the 13 mini is what I ended up on. I hope that form factor gets a refresh in a few years!

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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Unfortunately this still hasn't happened yet. There are almost no good options for reasonable size Androids anymore. Zenfone 10 is pretty good, especially with the headphone jack, but it's already out of print and will be obsolete before long. And smaller would be nicer. Any other current gen recommendations?

I had to make this decision yesterday and picked Galaxy S25. A lot lighter than my work Pixel 9.

Seconded. Unfortunately the latest leaks suggest that the next gen - S26 - will be a bit bigger.

https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s26-screen-s...

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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You’re way too cynical and have let your cynicism cloud history. The first phablets were probably the Galaxy Note line starting in 2011 which was met with some skepticism due to the size of them. These were well before the edge to edge screen days. So you had 5.7 inch screens with a bezel. They were huge but I would routinely see small women pull these things out of their hand bags and press a device that obscured al…

The general population wants larger phones because they are addicted to their screens.

I want larger phones because I am at that particular stage of middle age where I should probably start using reading glasses, but I'm also damned if I'm going to start carrying reading glasses everywhere with me.

Larger screen = easier life.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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The general population wants larger phones because they are addicted to their screens.

The other problem is that more and more content now is designed for (or only tolerable on) larger phone screens. Go to any website these days on a smaller phone like an iPhone mini and more than 50% (being charitable here) of the screen will be taken up by garbage like ads, cookie banners, popups, etc. It's a vicious cycle. Phone manufactures make the screen bigger, app and website developers realize they can cram mo…

Ya'll see adds? I use Brave Browser on all my devices and haven't seen traditional ads in years. Even Youtube ads are blocked on Brave by default

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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None of this explains why it's just impossible to get small phones. You have people who want them unusably large and people who want them to fit in your hand. The solution in every other market is that products are manufactured to fit both sets of needs. You don't see pants coming in one size with the advice "wear a belt". What's going on?

>You don't see pants coming in one size with the advice "wear a belt". Great example. Because people who are shorter than average tend to have to get pants taken up, and people who are vastly taller than average tend to go to specialty stores. The average height of pants is largely dictated by what the market will permit, requiring people to make adjustments or leave the market. Having a 2d matrix of height and width…

> Technology is worse, anything that requires tooling is done the least number of times possible. While small phone enjoyers are disadvantaged, they arent disadvantaged enough to force them out of the market. Larger tooling is easier to make and caters to all other preferences.

No, you're making up a claim that you know perfectly well is false. Just blank most of your day out of your mind, and then... what? Why?

You don't like pants? Televisions come in dozens of different sizes. Laptops come in dozens of different sizes. Are phones different in some way?

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