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Re: Tools: Code Is All You Need

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Post by regmaticalistic »

ivape wrote: post #129
foobarbecue wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hype cycle for drones and VR was similar -- at the peak, you have people claiming drones will take over package delivery and everyone will spend their day in VR. Reality is that the applicability is more narrow.

You checked out drone warfare? It’s all the rage in every conflict at the moment. The hype around drones is not fake, and I’d compare it more to autonomous cars because regulation is the only reason you don’t see a million private drones flying around.

"Drone warfare" isn't really a thing. Drones in the battlefield remain something that:

a) Hegemon uses to avoid needing to deploy boots to the ground

b) Resource strapped combatants use as a supplement of guerrilla tactics

c) Specops have used to great publicity effect in a context of very heavy use of traditional intelligence assets

The narrative that "this changes everything" is very much in line with how we see the story around AI developing as well. Highly publicized demos that hide the enormous efforts in traditional technologies and good old human labor surrounding them.

Re: Tools: Code Is All You Need

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Post by regmaticalistic »

freetinker wrote: post #197
foobarbecue wrote: post #29

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Hype cycle for drones and VR was similar -- at the peak, you have people claiming drones will take over package delivery and everyone will spend their day in VR. Reality is that the applicability is more narrow.

Drones are delivering. Ukraine?

What exactly are they delivering in Ukraine, besides publicity?

Re: Tools: Code Is All You Need

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Post by regmaticalistic »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #195
golergka wrote: post #160

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People claimed that we would spend most of our day on the internet in the mid-90s, and then the dotcom bubble burst. And then people claimed that by 2015 robo-taxis would be around all the major cities of the planet. You can be right but too early. There was a hype wave for drones and VR (more than one for the latter one), but I wouldn't be so sure that it's peak of their real world usage yet.

Which is why I think there are two distinct kinds of perspective, and for one of them, AI hype is just about at the right levels - and being too early is not a problem, unless it delays things indefinitely. I wrote about it recently here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44208831 . Quoting myself (sorry): > For me, one of the Beneficiaries, the hype seems totally warranted. The capability is there, the possibilit…

You're getting from it the one thing it can deliver. Dazzle and publicity.

Re: Tools: Code Is All You Need

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Post by TeMPOraL »

regmaticalistic wrote: post #213
TeMPOraL wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which is why I think there are two distinct kinds of perspective, and for one of them, AI hype is just about at the right levels - and being too early is not a problem, unless it delays things indefinitely. I wrote about it recently here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44208831 . Quoting myself (sorry): > For me, one of the Beneficiaries, the hype seems totally warranted. The capability is there, the possibilit…

You're getting from it the one thing it can deliver. Dazzle and publicity.

Yes. That, and a shit ton of work done - work I wouldn't manage to do, or wouldn't even try, without AI tools.

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Post by dangus »

jasonlotito wrote: post #22
dangus wrote: post #12

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I was about to say the same thing. It’s bad writing practice to do this, even if you are assuming your followers are following you. Especially for a site like Twitter that has a login wall.

I'm confused. It links to the definition in the first sentence, and I'm not sure what you mean by Twitter in this context.

I could be wrong but I wonder if that was edited in. I could have sworn that wasn’t there before.

Re: Tools: Code Is All You Need

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Post by dangus »

empath75 wrote: post #18
webdevver wrote: post #11

what does "MCP" stand for?

If you don't know what it is and can't be bothered to google it, then you probably aren't the audience for this.

Assuming that people will google is terrible practice as a writer.

Imagine writing a movie or a play where you want people to walk out of the theater and look something up.

At best you are directing the audience away your work.

Re: Tools: Code Is All You Need

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Post by 1vuio0pswjnm7 »

"Perhaps as a non-software engineer, code is out of reach."

Perhaps. Perhaps not. I am a "non-software engineer" and I use shell scripts to automate tasks every day.

I think there is actually too much code within reach. It gets in the way. Every day, more code.

One reason I like the Bourne shell is that it does not change much. It just keeps working.

Re: Tools: Code Is All You Need

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Post by soulofmischief »

sizzle wrote: post #166
mumbisChungo wrote: post #161

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The metaverse is and was a guess at how the children of today might interact as they age into active market participants. Like all these other examples, speculative mania preceded genuine demand and it remains to be seen whether it plays out over the coming 10-15 years.

Ahh yes let’s get the next generation addicted to literal screens strapped to their eyeballs for maximum monetization, humanity be damned. Glad it’s a failing bet. Now sex bots might be onto something…

That's extremely judgmental of you. There is strong merit in building online, international but close-knit communities. I have met many friends for life through the internet and through my own experience as CTO of a popular metaverse project (that failed because of a hostile takeover and ridiculous pivot to a sex bot startup that spat in the face of our loyal users)

I cared deeply about our users, about connection and technology. I also love being outside and meeting IRL with friends I've met online. I just took a road trip through the West with a friend from Armenia whom I met doing metaverse work and the exchange of culture was exhilarating.

VR isn't even required for the metaverse, which tells me you're criticizing something of which you have an incomplete understanding. The metaverse is about people and deep connections. About building communities. That's nothing to criticize.

Re: Tools: Code Is All You Need

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Post by shepherdjerred »

nartho wrote: post #177
shepherdjerred wrote: post #170

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Are fractals or x86 assembly representative of most dev work?

I think it's irrelevant. The point they are trying to make is anytime you ask a LLM for something that's outside of your area of expertise you have very little to no way to insure it is correct.

I think you're vastly overestimating the amount of knowledge the average developer has in their "area of expertise"

I'm not saying that's a good thing, just that LLMs are no worse than the bottom 50% of devs.

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