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Post by dizhn »

phantomathkg wrote: post #28
rdtsc wrote: post #8

It's surprising how hostile youtube is to multilingual users. Probably all in some attempt to show off their translation capability or to improve the experience for users who may want to access content in a language they don't speak? Or it's just as dumb as this was on some product managers "designed and implemented" line to get promoted? But, surely someone sane there has to realize there is a large number of users…

i18n and l10n are something that I have seen a company done right. It is easy developer to assume: If your IP is coming from country X, you must want the content to be served in language X. No, there are tourist from country Z, long term resident who prefer language A and people from country X want to learn language B. - If your browser Accept-Language say X,Y, then you must want all the content to be served in X. No…

I get this a lot in restaurant menus nowadays. My phone is set to English because I am more familiar with techy terms in English than my native language with its weird translations. I go to a restaurant, open the QR menu and tell them what I want. But they don't understand what I want because the menu is set to English because of my phone settings. A lot of places have English names in their regular menu (because cool) so I am not talking about speaking English to a nonspeaker. Like sometimes a wrap is called a wrap and sometimes it's called whatever the native thing is. That kind of thing.

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Post by dzogchen »

Oh my God this is auto translation business is so incredibly annoying. Especially for people that know multiple languages. But I imagine it is the worst for people who are trying to learn another language...

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Post by klausa »

xdfgh1112 wrote: post #198
klausa wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On iOS, this is something you can can control on a per-app basis from the (system) Settings.app.

Really useful for Google maps. I generally prefer English but I want Japanese for google so I get local people's opinion over tourists who think every ramen is the best ramen they've ever tasted. I'm surprised it's not an option actually. Language aside, tourism and actually living somewhere are totally separate and reviews should reflect that.

Interesting use case! Why won't you just use Tabelog instead?

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Post by shmeeed »

rightbyte wrote: post #187
qwertox wrote: post #176

Autodubbing is probably the worst feature Google has ever implemented. It's OK if they want to offer it, but at least let me disable it for specific languages. And for those languages which I don't understand, let me choose a default autodubbing language. Because I assume that auto-generated translations from French to English will be far better than those from French to German or Spanish. Also, the voices they use s…

It is terrible and took me a while to realize what was happening. I though some videos were generated spam. Reddit does something similar now. It auto translates posts and they show up in Google in my native tongue. Really annoying since when I search in that language I specifically don't want English sites.

First time I saw an autodubbed video, within seconds I was literally screaming at my buddy to turn it off, TURN IT OFF! It's so unnatural and badly done, it creeps me the hell out and hurts my ears.

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Post by gfdujdufituj »

addandsubtract wrote: post #154
jacek wrote: post #152

It is incredible how many addons I need to make YouTube usable. Here's my list (all Firefox): - uBlock Origin - ad block - SponsorBlock - to skip in video ads (some other nice features like highlights too) - YouTube Row Fixer - for the tiles to adjust to the window - Return YouTube Dislike - self explanatory - YouTube No Translation - thanks for the suggestion!

Also DeArrow to replace clickbait titles and thumbnails with more relevant ones.

I use BlockTube. If channels advertise that their content is trash via clickbait thumbnails and video titles, I can get rid of them once and for all.

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Post by encom »

magicalhippo wrote: post #162
phantomathkg wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i18n and l10n are something that I have seen a company done right. It is easy developer to assume: If your IP is coming from country X, you must want the content to be served in language X. No, there are tourist from country Z, long term resident who prefer language A and people from country X want to learn language B. - If your browser Accept-Language say X,Y, then you must want all the content to be served in X. No…

Windows took a nosedive with recent Windows releases, due to the "apps". Oh, you're using Norwegian keyboard layout? Well surely you want Norwegian display text to go with that. Oh, you're using US keyboard layout? Well surely you'll want US date and time formatting to go with that, along with the display text. All the while ignoring the setting that's been there for ages and worked reasonably well.

Danskjævel here, and I feel your pain. MS Windows has always had a pretty terrible danish translation. Partly because a lot of tech language translates poorly to danish, and partly because MS are lazy and incompetent. Back in Windows 2000 days, I found instances where "Windows" the product name was translated to "vinduer", the danish word for an actual window. I actually found a ~25 year old screenshot I took --> https://0x0.st/80r5.png

Worse than that is, as you say, software that makes dumb assumptions about my language preferences. It gets especially interesting when graphic drivers translate strings like ambient occlusion, screen space reflections, temporal anti-aliasing, subsurface scattering. The result is incomprehensible gibberish - I mean levels far beyond the baseline gibberish danish already is :D

Win10 regional settings are so terrible, and it's pretty much impossible to set keyboard, date/number formatting and basically everything but display language to danish, while keeping the display language english (The King's English, thankyouverymuch). Thankfully Linux has the locale "en_DK.UTF-8" which instantly makes everything show like I want it.

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Post by amiga386 »

wheybags wrote: post #182
bux93 wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a tourist 4 weeks per year. Excluding any business travel. That's 7.6% of the time. Now, I travel internationally more than most, but it's not out of the ordinary and it's 100x your estimate. Of course, I'm multilingual even if I stay at home. Do we know how many people are multilingual? About half of Europeans speak more than one language. That's hundreds of millions of Youtube users. 22% of Americans for 76 mil…

> all EU countries except Ireland mandate second language teaching in schools Ireland does mandate second language teaching in schools, it's just not a foreign language, it's Irish (separate language, not a dialect of English). And it's taught atrociously badly. The vast majority of graduates, after about 13 years of mandatory Irish classes, cannot functionally speak it.

> separate language, not a dialect of English

Of all the languages spoken in the UK and Ireland that argument attracts, I've never heard anyone claim that about Irish - an actual Gaelic language.

> The vast majority of graduates, after about 13 years of mandatory Irish classes, cannot functionally speak it.

They just need to get out their word book - that's right, their focal leabhair

♫ oh get out your focal leabhair, get out your focal leabhair

and we'll have you speaking Irish in a half-an-hour

Sea means yes and Níl means no

get out your focal leabhair and we'll all have a go ♫

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYNZbmrMg7M

Re: YouTube No Translation

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Post by sebstefan »

doener wrote: post #82
tobi_bsf wrote: post #43

It’s unbelievable how broken YouTube is when it comes to language. I’m German. I want to see German content in German, and obviously I want to see English content in English. How is this not possible—especially when it worked perfectly for years? Is there a Chrome Variant of this?

Yes: https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/youtube-no-translat...

Or better yet, switching to firefox
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