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U.S. bombs Iranian nuclear sites

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Post by proc0 »

vaughands wrote: post #6

Seriously, what is the benefit to the US here? I can't understand how this benefits the country at all.

The US is the leader of the liberal empire which depends on the middle east allowing trade. Iran is standing in the way of this and wants to push back the empire's control away from the middle east... but they have their own plans to establish another empire of their own.

I know "empire" is maybe an outdated term but I'm just illustrating there are bigger incentives than at the national level. Ironically it is conservative nationalists (who are hated by the Left) that want the empire to shrink and for the US to pull back from this leadership position. The risk here is it could also destabilize the entire world, but that's a different matter.

In short, this move is an attempt to strengthen the status quo that began after WW2.If the status quo is maintained it directly benefits the US.

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Post by austin-cheney »

dkjaudyeqooe wrote: post #203

There are reasons why presidents have avoided attacking Iran. - massive instability in the ME. Just a few men with shoulder fired missiles can disrupt oil shipments from the biggest oil producers - the high chance of being sucked into a forever war. Iran can cause a lot of problems with limited resources and can rebuild. They have no reason to give up and the US might have to continue bombing indefinitely, or launch…

Worse, is that this was done at the behest of Israel. Israel is America’s shittiest ally in the region where the relationship is exclusively one-sided. There are good reasons why, despite all the lies and bullshit from America politicians, America has not executed military actions at their behest before now.

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Post by busterarm »

sjsdaiuasgdia wrote: post #31
tptacek wrote: post #23

I think Netanyahu belongs in prison, and Trump, the less said the better, but: couldn't have happened to a nicer unauthorized weapons-grade uranium enrichment facility dug into the side of a mountain hours outside of population centers. If you haven't already, I highly recommend reading up on the GBU-57 "bunker buster" bomb, because it is some Merrie Melodies Acme brand munitions. It's deliberately as heavy as they c…

It's a shame we got rid of the deal that brought their domestic uranium production to a halt [0]. Trump fucked this all up so badly. [0] https://www.statista.com/chart/23528/irans-stockpile-of--low...

And yet every neighboring country in the region supported our withdrawal.

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greenavocado wrote: post #208

Fascinating how this happened merely weeks after Iran-China railway link opened (Reported on May 25, 2025. Link below.). It directly threatens US hegemony by providing a faster and more secure land corridor for trade, particularly Iranian oil and gas exports to China and Chinese goods flowing into Iran and the broader Middle East. This bypasses critical maritime chokepoints like the Strait of Hormuz and the Strait of…

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Post by standardUser »

msgodel wrote: post #93

Yeah there was no good reason for that. The main thing I liked about Trump is that he didn't start any wars his first term, if he gets us into a war I'm going to be fucking mad.

> if he gets us into a war I'm going to be fucking mad

Maybe Trump will claim the airstrikes were just a joke, like he does when he tells his supporters to use violence towards other Americans. Otherwise, the United States is definitely, unambiguously at war with Iran.

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