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Resurrecting a dead torrent tracker and finding 3M peers

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Re: Resurrecting a dead torrent tracker and finding 3M peers

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Post by immibis »

ranger_danger wrote: post #209
immibis wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They wrote "download Linux ISO"s" yet they're using an old piracy tracker domain, which Linux ISOs don't use. The court is not stupid.

For the purposes of a criminal case, yes, they are intentionally stupid... it's up to the prosecution to prove "beyond a reasonable doubt" that something they did was illegal and that they knew it and chose to do it anyway. What a judge/jury thinks about this person, or "linux ISOs", is irrelevant... their job is only to interpret the information given to them.

There is no reasonable doubt that the domain used is for piracy and the defendant knew as much.

"Beyond a reasonable doubt" doesn't mean you can just say "no that's not true" about anything and have it not count. It's beyond a reasonable doubt, not beyond any doubt. It's not reasonable that this tracker address was gotten from a Linux ISO. Perhaps the defendant could claim they got it from a list of trackers, but they already admitted they didn't, so that's not reasonable either.

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Post by BrandoElFollito »

This reminds me of Cloudflare taking over 1.1.1.1

This was a typical fake entry in captive portals, or a temporary gateway.

They described (cannot find the blog post right now) the various traffic they were getting, across many services (default ports)

Re: Resurrecting a dead torrent tracker and finding 3M peers

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Post by ranger_danger »

immibis wrote: post #211
ranger_danger wrote: post #209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For the purposes of a criminal case, yes, they are intentionally stupid... it's up to the prosecution to prove "beyond a reasonable doubt" that something they did was illegal and that they knew it and chose to do it anyway. What a judge/jury thinks about this person, or "linux ISOs", is irrelevant... their job is only to interpret the information given to them.

There is no reasonable doubt that the domain used is for piracy and the defendant knew as much. "Beyond a reasonable doubt" doesn't mean you can just say "no that's not true" about anything and have it not count. It's beyond a reasonable doubt, not beyond any doubt. It's not reasonable that this tracker address was gotten from a Linux ISO. Perhaps the defendant could claim they got it from a list of trackers, but the…

> There is no reasonable doubt that the domain used is for piracy and the defendant knew as much.

Even if that were proven as true, so what? There's nothing illegal about using the domain itself.

> It's not reasonable that this tracker address was gotten from a Linux ISO

Sorry but you don't get to be the judge of that, the judge does.

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Post by 57473m3n7Fur7h3 »

graealex wrote: post #191
globular-toast wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Careful. This guy doesn't like HN and you'll get a picture of a testicle if you click.

I do like the commitment of registering a whole domain for no other purpose as to be able to spam a single picture, though.

Everyone else that visits the site from other places get the actual content and not the testicle. So it’s not just that one image. That only shows up when your referrer is HN.

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Post by andai »

busterarm wrote: post #197
chaboud wrote: post #168

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This is definitely the right pragmatic take. A lawyer friend of mine once laid it out for me: "in litigation, if you go to court, even if you win, you lose". The reality is that court sucks, and getting sued sucks for all but the ultra-wealthy (who can absorb the cost). For those of us with less than $100MM, court is a universe to be avoided.

Don't underestimate this. My family members sued each other over a small inheritance. 5 kids fighting over a couple million dollars. Case has dragged out across almost 4 decades. Lawyer fees dwarfed the size of what was being fought over several times over. Some family spent time in jail for contempt of court... Family members then put up all their personal assets to keep fighting. Then they lost and were faced with…

Well, that seems a bit silly!

>Never get the government involved in your personal relationships.

Amen! You can't tax friendship.

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Post by boramalper »

delusional wrote: post #146
treyd wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most torrent clients that people use (though not all) are actually wrappers around libtorrent, which is very well tested and has even been audited.

It's worth noting that there are at least 3 variants calling themselves "libtorrent" and to my knowledge they don't have a lot in common implementation wise.

1. libtorrent-rasterbar — https://packages.debian.org/sid/libtorrent-rasterbar-dev

2. libtorrent-rakshasa (rTorrent) — https://packages.debian.org/sid/libtorrent-dev

What’s the third one?

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