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Research suggests Big Bang may have taken place inside a black hole

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Re: Research suggests Big Bang may have taken place inside a black hole

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Might as well believe in God if you’re going to believe in spontaneous accidental creation…

There's quite a big philosophical difference between "there exists a point beyond which it is possible to make observations" and "the universe was created by an omnipotent being"

Verily, for all knowest that the gods live up in the sky, which is forever unreachable and unobservable by any man.

Re: Research suggests Big Bang may have taken place inside a black hole

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Interesting read, but even if we assume the author is correct, and the cosmos formed as a black hole in a larger universe, the question remains, how did this larger universe formed, then? Might just be impossible to know.

It’s turtles all the way down

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Oh I have so many questions on this topic. I've often wondered about this. I don't have any direct physics training, but it's something that felt really plausible after I learned that the mass of a black hole is linearly proportional to its swarzschild radius. As the size of the black hole goes up, its overall density must decrease. Combined with the other observation that our universe has uniform density at large sc…

>follow-up thought I'm hoping somebody else has also thought about [...] dark energy as _negative energy_ [...] Maybe like a black hole evaporating

Another layman's thoughts: Isn't the energy theoretically lost by black holes so faint it's currently undetectable? And isn't the amount of dark energy theorized to be the major component of the observable universe? It seems like the numbers wouldn't add up?

Re: Research suggests Big Bang may have taken place inside a black hole

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Interesting read, but even if we assume the author is correct, and the cosmos formed as a black hole in a larger universe, the question remains, how did this larger universe formed, then? Might just be impossible to know.

A larger black hole

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Big bang theory no longer excites me. As long as we can't explain consciousness all these theories are pointless. All theories mere appearances in consciousness including the universe and everything we experience. Consciousness has the property to render infinite universes and theories. But we have no clue how universe creates consciousness.

First define consciousness such that the definition differentiates you from a computer with a webcam.

You cannot define consciousness. You can only experience it. In fact consciousness is the only thing you will ever experience.

Re: Research suggests Big Bang may have taken place inside a black hole

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> The Big Bang is often described as the explosive birth of the universe – a singular moment when space, time and matter sprang into existence. It is indeed "often described" in the media as such. However, that is _not_ the currently accepted theory. "What if there were no space and time before the Big Bang" is just Stephen Hawking's pet theory.

Might as well believe in God if you’re going to believe in spontaneous accidental creation…

I don't think so - god is substantially less parsimonious. But in the end, I think you're sort of using two different notions of belief as if they were the same.

I believe (lowercase b) in all sorts of stuff, scientific and otherwise, but believing in God typically indicates some kind of act of faith, which is to say, ultimately, to believe in something despite the absence of evidence for it and for some deeper reason than can be furnished by a warrant of some kind. I can believe in the spontaneous generation of the universe in the lowercase b sense of the word without really having anything to do at all with the latter kind of belief, which I think is kind of dumb.

Re: Research suggests Big Bang may have taken place inside a black hole

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Yea, and it was a great read too. I wish more researchers would publish blog posts alongside their technical whitepapers, although I acknowledge that not everyone involved in science has or wishes to acquire the skills needed to write blog-form content. (I'd also be worried about a world where researchers are evaluated based on the virality of their blog posts, vs. how impactful their work was.)

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Can you cite your sources please?

Re: Research suggests Big Bang may have taken place inside a black hole

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There was a youtube lecture I saw years ago that showed exactly what you'd see as you fell into a black hole and passed through the event horizon. You'd see EVERYTHING that EVER crossed the event horizon. But critically, you'd see it EXACTLY as it was at the monent it crossed. Sounds a bit crowded to me. Sounds a bit like I'd expect the big bang to look.

I thought you were supposed to get spaghettified and die instantly ?

Re: Research suggests Big Bang may have taken place inside a black hole

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There's quite a big philosophical difference between "there exists a point beyond which it is possible to make observations" and "the universe was created by an omnipotent being"

Am omnipotent being is a necessity for making observations. A lot of religions considers consciousness as God.

I don't see how this is. It seems eminently reasonable that observation can simply be performed by sub-omnipotent beings.
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