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Post by sanderjd »

anon84873628 wrote: post #145
WatchDog wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not American, thus I had no vote in the election, nor do I like Trump for a number of reasons. However, enforcement of immigration laws has been one of the biggest parts of his election platform, if not the central part(build the wall, etc). I imagine his voters are happy to see some action being taken. The protestors could really do with some better optics, destroying property and waving foreign flags is just go…

I'm so tired of hearing this type of thing. "If the protesters would simply protest correctly , then I would respect them." News flash. The opposition is always going to say something like this to set an impossible bar for the protestors. This type of thinking undermines all protests, protects the status quo, and basically boils down to victim blaming. Not to mention you can always have false flag operatives undermin…

And yet, we can all choose what kinds of protests we do and don't support and respect.

It's true that the opposition will say that even the best most peaceful protest is bad. But sometimes people broadly will agree with them, and other times they won't, and that depends on what's actually going on.

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Post by lurk2 »

Scuds wrote: post #188
bix6 wrote: post #49

This is terrifying and unconscionable. Hard to believe this is the USA today. I don’t really see this de-escalating given the ongoing rhetoric but I hope I’m wrong.

there's a reason why people remember kent state.

What reason is that?

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Post by vFunct »

b33j0r wrote: post #207
vFunct wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Not saying this is the case, just maybe challenging your premise as an absolute. Let’s say someone is genociding, and the election opponent says “I want to also genocide, but harder and smarter.” Your moral obligation is stronger against the incumbent? Is it because the incumbent is already complicit and the other guy might not be as bad? I don’t understand the moral logic of the possible absolutism here. Shouldn’t t…

You're supposed to vote based on actions, not statements.

Any jackass can say anything. What matters is what they actually have done.

Never reward incorrect action.

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Post by b33j0r »

anon84873628 wrote: post #145
WatchDog wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not American, thus I had no vote in the election, nor do I like Trump for a number of reasons. However, enforcement of immigration laws has been one of the biggest parts of his election platform, if not the central part(build the wall, etc). I imagine his voters are happy to see some action being taken. The protestors could really do with some better optics, destroying property and waving foreign flags is just go…

I'm so tired of hearing this type of thing. "If the protesters would simply protest correctly , then I would respect them." News flash. The opposition is always going to say something like this to set an impossible bar for the protestors. This type of thinking undermines all protests, protects the status quo, and basically boils down to victim blaming. Not to mention you can always have false flag operatives undermin…

“I mean, they’re fine to express their protest as long as I don’t have to hear about it.”

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Post by zippyman55 »

ivape wrote: post #150
bix6 wrote: post #49

This is terrifying and unconscionable. Hard to believe this is the USA today. I don’t really see this de-escalating given the ongoing rhetoric but I hope I’m wrong.

It’s interesting ICE raided the outside of a Home Depot. Like, of all the immigrants, the immigrants that stand outside of Home Depot do the hardest physical labor. There’s no heart to what’s going on.

Only three people seeking work outside HD. Hope they raise their salary demands.

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Post by darkmighty »

DoktorDelta wrote: post #154
yahway wrote: post #102

I originally turned to HN to get away from politics, so it's disappointing to see one of the last remaining refuges being overtaken

You cannot "get away" from politics. Burying your head in the sand will not insulate you from what is happening.

Plato: "One of the penalties of refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors."

I don't love the phrasing of inferiors, but at least evil certainly applies. (Well thought out, well informed) Politics is a duty not a luxury.

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Post by mkfs »

protocolture wrote: post #196
mkfs wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't vote for Trump in 2016 or 2024, but I did do so in 2020 specifically because of the BLM riots , which the media incited (through selective reporting of police violence), excused ("fiery, mostly peaceful protests"), and then went so far as to doxx and harass anyone who resisted the mob, or even just those who found themselves in the wrong place at the wrong time, like the fuel truck driver who hadn't been inf…

BLM wasnt on the ballot, so your vote for Trump was really just performative.

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Post by labster »

ivape wrote: post #150
bix6 wrote: post #49

This is terrifying and unconscionable. Hard to believe this is the USA today. I don’t really see this de-escalating given the ongoing rhetoric but I hope I’m wrong.

It’s interesting ICE raided the outside of a Home Depot. Like, of all the immigrants, the immigrants that stand outside of Home Depot do the hardest physical labor. There’s no heart to what’s going on.

You have to target the immigrants who work hard, just so we can eventually prove Trump right when he says all of the immigrants are lazy and take our welfare entitlements. The remainder will be poorer, that’s just math.

Whether it’s good public policy is neither here nor there, so long as our Leader is right.

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Post by cwsx »

brewdad wrote: post #141
pyuser583 wrote: post #103

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I read somewhere reliable Trump is not invoking the Insurrection Act. I’d cite my source, but can’t find it. I also can’t find anything saying he is invoking it. Do you have any specific source? Edit: I’ve found several sources that make It clear the Insurrection Act had not been invoked. https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/09/politics/insurrection-act-tru... - “Trump officials quietly discuss moves in LA that avoid invoking…

Then that makes this move illegal. Impeach him now.

Third time's the charm!

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Post by leereeves »

bix6 wrote: post #49

This is terrifying and unconscionable. Hard to believe this is the USA today. I don’t really see this de-escalating given the ongoing rhetoric but I hope I’m wrong.

It's terrifying, certainly.

One man was taken into custody for allegedly throwing a Molotov cocktail at an officer and a motorcyclist was arrested for ramming a police skirmish line.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/kill-l-police-attacked-fireworks-...

Los Angeles County Sheriff Robert Luna said "you had people who were...attacking police officers, deputy sheriffs and causing a lot of destruction."

The 101 Freeway shut down Sunday evening two times due to protesters on an overpass throwing rocks, debris, and firecrackers at California Highway Patrol officers and vehicles.

Footage on Sunday from the CBS News Los Angeles helicopter showed that multiple windows of the police headquarters had been shattered as well.

https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/news/downtown-la-protests...

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