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Can I stop drone delivery companies flying over my property?

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Re: Can I stop drone delivery companies flying over my property?

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Post by p_l »

jcims wrote: post #139
LeoPanthera wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article isn't about the US. However, even the US, that isn't entirely true. United States v. Causby (1946) sets the precedent that property owners own the airspace above their property to (at least) 83 feet. The FAA has exclusive sovereignty over "navigable airspace", which is considered a public highway. This navigable airspace generally begins at 500 feet above the surface in uncongested areas and 1000 feet abo…

There's a medflight helicopter pad not far from my place out in the country. It's just a small concrete pad on a lot and when it is dispatched it ascends straight up to what I'd guessed was 300' but could easily be 500' before taking off towards its destination. Landings are similar. I always thought it looked weird but now I wonder if it's because it's largely surrounded by private property.

Quite probably it's more to avoid dealing with possible collision dangers.

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Post by isuricnamqodn »

scarab92 wrote: post #206
_carbyau_ wrote: post #157

My concern is less the occasional drone and more when Google decides that all their delivery drones - already carrying cameras/radar/lidar for navigational purposes - can be used to update google maps in near realtime. The sheer Big Brother possibilities are insane. The future: "saferoom is where the pants aren't"

I’ll never understand people who oppose new technology because it could hypothetically be used a negative way. These people just seem to have a chronically cynical outlook on everything. The logical thing to do is to regulate things when they become a problem, not speculatively.

they’ve probably read more history than your average bear

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Post by ty6853 »

mulmen wrote: post #84
rz2k wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They likely know their neighborhood. In my semi-rural neighborhood even discharging a firearm might lead to someone calling the Sheriff. In other neighborhoods armed gangs can apparently confront FEMA without any repercussions. In yet others, they can occupy parts of national parks and have an armed standoff with federal agents, again with no real consequences.

> In yet others, they can occupy parts of national parks and have an armed standoff with federal agents, again with no real consequences. What situation are you referencing here? First one that comes to mind is Malheur but one of them was killed and 7 went to prison.

The one that was killed was only done so away from Malheur, when the men with badges suddenly became brave again when they had one man and his family out in a bumfuck rural road.

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Post by anigbrowl »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #59
zelphirkalt wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well,not my country, but I think it is quite a silly and too general rule: What if 10 neighbors collude and start flying drones over my garden and house, only a few meters above ground or my roof, 24/7? What if one of their drones crashes without my doing and hurts _me_? So the actual rules need to be more nuanced than this, to prevent people doing crazy shit with their tech gadgets hurting others. They cannot be giv…

> What if 10 neighbors collude and start flying drones over my garden and house, only a few meters above ground or my roof, 24/7? What if your neighbours climb on your roof and start banging on your windows at night?

In many jurisdictions, GP would be within their rights to shoot at them in that case.

Re the FAA rules, there's a clear difference between planes or helicopters going overhead at safe and relatively high altitudes* and drones flying at much lower ones. Occasional passes from hobby or semi-pro drones used by photographers are a minor irritation, but if drone delivery became a regular thing I can see how frequent low altitude flybys would quickly become maddening. relying on existing law for new circumstances generally yields poor results.

* I live quite near a hospital with a helipad so about once a month I have to deal with a helicopter coming under 100 feet (~35m) and making the walls shake.

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Post by djsjajah »

scarab92 wrote: post #206
_carbyau_ wrote: post #157

My concern is less the occasional drone and more when Google decides that all their delivery drones - already carrying cameras/radar/lidar for navigational purposes - can be used to update google maps in near realtime. The sheer Big Brother possibilities are insane. The future: "saferoom is where the pants aren't"

I’ll never understand people who oppose new technology because it could hypothetically be used a negative way. These people just seem to have a chronically cynical outlook on everything. The logical thing to do is to regulate things when they become a problem, not speculatively.

If we didn't have people like that, then they would be right.

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Post by rolph »

arresin wrote: post #185
rolph wrote: post #28

drones have minimum distance and altitude regulations as well as restrictions from operating above people. also, stock up on fishing line

I like the fishing line idea a lot but wouldn’t that get birds as well

perhaps, but birds dont like drone frequented areas either, your thickets/coppice will clear out under requent drone traffic.

you dont need nets just single dangling lines

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Post by erkt »

SoftTalker wrote: post #7

In my neighborhood (rural) a drone hovering over someone's property would be likely used as target practice. If delivery drones become commonplace, there are going to have to be regulations about which air corridors they can use (altitude and routes) or it will be chaos.

I would hope so. The temptation to strap unknown sensors to map and analyze the customers they fly over will be impossible for them to ignore. Let the drone hunting season commence.

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Post by monkaiju »

scarab92 wrote: post #206
_carbyau_ wrote: post #157

My concern is less the occasional drone and more when Google decides that all their delivery drones - already carrying cameras/radar/lidar for navigational purposes - can be used to update google maps in near realtime. The sheer Big Brother possibilities are insane. The future: "saferoom is where the pants aren't"

I’ll never understand people who oppose new technology because it could hypothetically be used a negative way. These people just seem to have a chronically cynical outlook on everything. The logical thing to do is to regulate things when they become a problem, not speculatively.

Idk how you can think this is the reasonable take given any familiarity with history...

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Post by ty6853 »

mulmen wrote: post #193
ty6853 wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amon Bundy was tried on many charges and his case was closed with prejudice. The media and government tried and tried to paint him as a criminal but ultimately all the kings horses, men, and prosecutors weren't able to persuade a jury.

> The media and government tried and tried to paint him as a criminal but ultimately all the kings horses, men, and prosecutors weren't able to persuade a jury. This is technically correct but is a misleading characterization of the events according to Wikipedia [1]. > The first criminal case resulting from the standoff, against six Bundy supporters, was declared a mistrial by U.S. District Judge Gloria Navarro on Ap…

The Bunkerville trial of Ammon was declared a mistrial with prejudice.

For Malheur he was found 'not guilty' on all charges 'according to wikipedia',

>On October 27, 2016, Ammon Bundy was found not guilty on all counts.[87][88]

Unless you are thinking of another trial of Amon, I think you are mixing up someone else (6 others?) or another event. I admit it is easy to mix it up with Ammon, because the government tried to pin felony charges on him so many time and always hopelessly failed just in multiple ways.

Of course sometimes a criminal just gets away with it, but when the government tries so many felony charges and fails each time, that is when I decided to investigate 'the other side of the coin' and quickly found the portrait portrayed by the media of Ammon is in my estimation highly distorted.

While it will do nothing to convince one way or another of his guilt, I highly recommend listening to some of his interviews and videos and actually trying to understand him, and I think you will be surprised. His ideas and speech were not at all what I expected based on the media portrayal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammon_Bundy

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