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Cinematography of “Andor”

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Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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post #94

I especially like all the retro control panels! I wish I could find a montage of all the instrument, button and control panels of Andor.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DJP11cruD0p/

Perfect! I probably had this one at the back of my head.

I suppose there's more good examples that could be mined from the show.

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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post #47

I think Andor is a bit over hyped in this threat. I absolutely love it (especially the Imperial side of things) but saying it is better than the original movies is a bit too much. If you take into account the time and technical possibilities it's not even close. And the original movies have more memorable things overall. I mean the two villains alone are all time greats. The music is also better (imo). But most impor…

I don't get what people love about Andor. The prison break episode was good but the flashbacks to the kids in the jungle were horrible and the funeral with instruments straight out of Fat Albert's junkyard band were laughable.

There's a lot to love, but e.g. the whole S2 arc where the Empire is provoking and covertly encouraging a rebellion on the planet they want to gut for resources - our protagonist gets a bad feeling about helping the amateur hour rebels but the amoral leader actually wants to encourage them knowing they'll likely fail.

"Think about a planet like Ghorman in rebellion. A planet of wealth and status."

"And if it goes up in flames?"

"It will burn... very brightly."

There's barely any recent popular TV or movies I can think of with the level of subtle, complex, morally grey themes Andor explored.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAJ3dUm_r2A

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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If you haven't watched Andor and you are at all open to sci-fi then I would urge you to consider giving a go. The writing, acting, and cinematography are all excellent, and IMO it is a very strong contender for the best TV show released in the last few years.

It makes me wish it were the actual start of the franchise and then they made Rogue One and the trilogy de novo. In that counterfactual I think there's a good shot it'd be far better than the originals, and the Star Wars story would be considered not just a classic but a masterpiece. (I don't think the original trilogy is bad exactly, but the trilogy with the Andor look/feel/style/writing/acting could've been some of…

If they can reboot Harry Potter as a series, I guess Star Wars should be an option, too. Disney will run out of storylines/timelines that are compatible with nostalgia, soon.

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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> you are at all open to sci-fi That is to say, a sci-fi setting . Andor would not be correctly put in the sci-fi genre, rather in the political thriller genre.

That's the thing about sci-fi: almost all good sci-fi stories are really sci-fi + X, where X is some other genre. Often adventure or mystery, sometimes horror, and in this case political thriller / spy story.

I'm trying to figure out what sci-fi not crossed with something else even means. Even most of the great works of classic sci-fi of the 20th century draw tropes and plot points from other genres.

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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post #208

To address this interview specifically, rather than just gushing about how great Andor is-- One point Nuyens makes in a few different ways is that they used a variety of tools and techniques at every stage. People often have simplistic, extreme viewpoints like "modern CGI can do anything" or "CGI looks fake and weightless, practical effects are better". But here's somebody with a big part in making a fantastic-lookin…

I have zero knowledge about lenses and optics in general, but found it interesting that the outer edges of the frame are often blurred in a peculiar way. Was that a stylistic choice?

Any odd blurring, distortion, or vignetting you might find around the edges could be caused by anamorphic lenses. Vignetting is often also added in post.

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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They did a really good job tying Andor into Rogue One, but yeah Andor is just far better in terms of pacing, etc. And because they have to rush the plot in R1 (meet Jyn, she doesn't care about the rebellion, oops never mind now she's leading the rebellion) it ends up seeming much shallower emotionally. They also seemed to have to have a bit of fan service. Rogue One was my favourite Star Wars production before Andor,…

If by fan service you mean the scene where Darth Vader is at his most terrifying in the whole franchise, I think it was handled perfectly.

Here's a few instances of fan service in that movie:

- Andor running into Pigperson and Grover on Yedha

- That entirely random 20-sec scene with C-3PO and R2-D2

- "Red Leader, standing by" was archive footage from A New Hope (and arguably a tribute to the late actor)

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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post #208

To address this interview specifically, rather than just gushing about how great Andor is-- One point Nuyens makes in a few different ways is that they used a variety of tools and techniques at every stage. People often have simplistic, extreme viewpoints like "modern CGI can do anything" or "CGI looks fake and weightless, practical effects are better". But here's somebody with a big part in making a fantastic-lookin…

I have zero knowledge about lenses and optics in general, but found it interesting that the outer edges of the frame are often blurred in a peculiar way. Was that a stylistic choice?

It's the anamorphic lenses. It's become something of a look recently so I think of it partly as a deliberate stylistic choice. But also an accident of a particular lens geometry. They just don't mind it.

Shogun did this too, I think also The Witcher.

https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsAndor/comments/15rjjcg/why_...

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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post #64

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You guys are excluding the George Lucas movies from discussion right? In my opinion nothing ever came even close and I gave up on SW after the second Kylo Ren movie. Rouge one was cool though, also first episodes of Mandalorian.. Should I really try Andor after all the bad stuff Disney made? A few days ago I watched the new LILO and Stitch and that was great, so maybe good people still work at Disney …

It's barely star wars. It's a competent spy thriller with star wars paint. Turns out that makes for pretty good adult oriented star wars.

Star Wars is barely Star Wars: it's just Flash Gordon and Dam Busters with Star Wars paint.

You can't escape your influences, and you don't need to.

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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post #193
post #10

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You're aware of Rogue One, right?

Everyone gushing over Rogue One... but it was at best barely competent. 10-20 minutes of static talking heads, 5 minutes of mediocre action. Repeat until the end. Meaningless side-quests. The final is a thousand cliches one after another culminating in a "main computer at the end of a rickety walkway" and "a kiss at the sunset". The only reason it's hailed as the greatest movie ever is because so much of the Star War…

> a kiss at the sunset

They don't kiss.

And that's not a sunset.

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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post #112
post #77

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It's the opposite for me. I could not be more burnt out on StarWars, when they introduced the force in season 2 I rolled my eyes and it somewhat took me out of it. The main downside of watching Andor is that you have your brain nagging you about eposide 7 making everything that you are watching pointless (the new republic is obliterated after 20-30 years). I have friends that I can't convince to watch it because they…

And this is exactly where I disagree. Andor does not stand very well on its own outside of SW (and that takes it from great tier to very good for me with the other minor squibbles that I have). If you don't know the lore, things will be less clear and the writing will feel strange at times. FWIW, I have recommended this show to many friends who never watched anything SW, they mostly liked it but found some things odd…

I watched Andor having not watched much other Star Wars, and with vague memories of A New Hope.

I absolutely loved it. So much that I'm now watching the entirety of Star Wars film and TV in chronological order (I'm in the Clone Wars series now, before the timeline overlaps Revenge of the Sith, and I went out of sequence to watch Rogue One to see the conclusion of the cast from Andor). The full chronology can be found here[1], though I used a bit of JS to extract just the films, tv shows, and video specials as a markdown table to put in Obsidian

So as someone who can say I pretty much didn't have the context you claim is necessary to appreciate Andor, I can tell you that it 100% stands out as a masterpiece to people who are unfamiliar with the rest of the Star Wars lore.

[1]: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Timeline_of_canon_media

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