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I doubt you have any proof of that happening...

https://www.foxnews.com/world/spanish-politician-suspended-b...

Suspended not banned. Also, in context the tweet was saying that the trans man was not a man and that was against the policy at the time. The pregnancy was just a detail there.

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I agree, the API change was the last nail in the coffin, honestly. Reddit was always bad for several reasons, but it always had some availability of smart people that placed it alongside StackExchange and Hacker News. But 2022 and 2023 really saw a mass exodus of expertise from Reddit (and Twitter, etc.) Lots of smart people left to Mastodons, at least.

I like how you both responded to GP's roast of "I agree" comments by saying "I agree". Maybe that was intentional. Anyway, I agree. I used Reddit fairly regularly before the API change, though I was already starting to get disenfranchised by the political hive mind by that point. The death of FOSS third party clients that made the platform bearable to use was the straw that broke the camel's back, for me. I've comple…

I hate that they took Apollo app from us.

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I've been there for 17 (!) years, and I could have written pretty much the same message as you since around 2012. Dennis Kucinich was a huge campaign! But I agree, since the API thing, it has sucked HARD.

Missing the Kucinich connection here, what's the lore?

First major presidential campaign astroturfing on a social media site. If you looked at Reddit (I dont remember what year it was, 2008? 2012?) you'd think 60% of America was dead set on the guy. It was less than 1%.

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I doubt you have any proof of that happening...

https://www.foxnews.com/world/spanish-politician-suspended-b...

surely you realize that this is entertainment outlet is not a news organization, nor does this entertainment outlet have any obligation to report anything on a factual, truthful or verifiable basis? and that this entertainment outlet is famously bigoted?

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Manufactured consensus is everywhere there is enough attention to incentivize such an effort. The worst by far is Reddit.

The most glaring example of this was how reddit did a total 180 before/after the election. Before the election questioning putting a candidate in without a primary was sacrilege. Afterwards it was a popularly supported reason for the loss. It was like watching an inflated balloon of propaganda deflate.

This slightly speaks to what subreddits a person reads, because I can tell you I had the exact opposite experience. People seemed still very pissed off about it.

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>It looks like Twitter is suppressing posts until they are spammed by hate bots and then making those posts visible. > https://bsky.app/profile/willhaycardiff.bsky.social/post/3lk ... This could also very well be explained by a ranking algorithm that optimizes for "engagement". Getting spammed by hate bots = "engagement". This would be perfectly consistent with what the guy is experiencing, minus the accusation that…

As I understanding the timing, the post was suppressed until the hate bots spammed it. Given the post was suppressed, how did the hate bots know about it to spam it? It seems to me Twitter suppressed the post until they had time to spam it with hate posts. Bear in mind here also this suppression did not happen for other posts - only for the pro-Ukraine post - so Twitter at the least is specifically suppressing pro-Uk…

>It seems to me Twitter suppressed the post until they had time to spam it with hate posts.

Twitter can't spam hate posts in real time? They're literally an AI company.

>Bear in mind here also this suppression did not happen for other posts - only for the pro-Ukraine post - so Twitter at the least is specifically suppressing pro-Ukraine posts.

There's scant evidence of this, besides the vague assertion that "I have 5k more followers there and regularly have posts which are viewed over 100k times". If he normally posts informative and substantive content that gets good engagement, is it really surprising that a generic "I support Zelensky" post would get poor engagement?

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> The worst by far is Reddit The website is truly unusable unless you directly go to small niche subreddits and even then you roll the dice with unpaid mods with a power complex.

And use old, the only interface not designed with the tiktok brain in mind (and the mobile app is just atrocious, RIF was way better in usability, etc)

It’s clear they know outright removal of it would kill off a portion of the user base, so they’ll just kill it piecemeal - starting with the old messages system and forcing people into the newer chat system.

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>What's the conflict? I can call something reckless without the recklessness itself making me particularly opposed to it. see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chekhov's_gun If you start off a sentence with "Some cracks started to form in this when", and then describe a situation using negative adjectives (ie. "reckless"), it's fair for most assume that the "recklessness" was your justification for the aforementioned cl…

You can argue that it hurts the flow of the comment, but I wouldn't act like a play has a huge plot hole because it had a gun that never got used. The comment said X, then it said Y, and those things don't conflict. "Which one is it?" doesn't make sense as a question. > Bosses telling non-equity owning subordinates to work harder is hardly a phenomenon limited to Musk. I don't see how this affects anything the GP sai…

>You can argue that it hurts the flow of the comment, but I wouldn't act like a play has a huge plot hole because it had a gun that never got used. The comment said X, then it said Y, and those things don't conflict. "Which one is it?" doesn't make sense as a question.

It's called confirming what your opponent's argument is, so you're not arguing against a strawman. If you check how the OP actually replied, it seems like he entirely abandoned the "he kept it all for himself" objection.

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It is a bit chilling because of the compound interest that this kind of policy incentivizes. Once you have a handful of powerful X accounts, you have the ability to generate more. So not only can you work to silence others, you can work to increase your capacity to silence others by promoting like-minded allies. We are at the early stages of this, so we are watching the capture of influence. There is some discussion…

Yes, but eventually normal people will just end up leaving.
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