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I ditched my laptop for a pocketable mini PC and a pair of AR glasses

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Re: I ditched my laptop for a pocketable mini PC and a pair of AR glasses

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Post by rendaw »

raffraffraff wrote: post #65

I tried this with the Viture Pro XR glasses last year and it sucks. Can't use it with Linux, except in dumb monitor mode. No head tracking unless you're using a supported OS. Android app sucks becaus you can't use it with any old app, eg productivity apps (their app is like a demo of head tracking that only supports stuff like YouTube and local media). Maybe I should have purchased the Xreals?

The drivers here https://github.com/wheaney/XRLinuxDriver mark Viture as "recommended" with the best support. I do see some mention that head tracking is a desktop responsibility, but I presume that means some support in the driver... do you have more informatio non this?

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Post by rendaw »

1oooqooq wrote: post #113
0x400000 wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The open-source Breezy GNOME is worth a try. It has head tracking and multi-monitor in beta with GNOME DE. https://github.com/wheaney/breezy-desktop

open source that requires a commercial license. and the drivers link to a repo that 404. think i will pass.

Which link? All the links I could find worked.

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Post by rendaw »

mzajc wrote: post #143
1oooqooq wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

open source that requires a commercial license. and the drivers link to a repo that 404. think i will pass.

It gets even worse, looks like their driver makes calls to google analytics.[1] I'd stay away. The README doesn't even mention it, and the promise that "your personal data will never be shared, sold, or distributed in any form." certainly sounds misleading when you consider this. [1] https://github.com/wheaney/XRLinuxDriver/blob/main/src/plugi...

https://github.com/wheaney/XRLinuxDriver/discussions/89

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Post by BobbyTables2 »

fsiefken wrote: post #145
arend321 wrote: post #131

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Waiting for the XReal One Pro to vibe code using Aider and Samsung DeX in a Termux terminal while walking my countries national parks (just something I would like to try)

I tried something like that 2 decades ago with a 640x480 monocular strapped to my sunglasses, with interpolation i could use a 1024x768 resolution in combination with a arm based pocketpc with host usb and compactflash video-out. I used it for reading and 'fast' offline wikipedia/tr3 database search with both frogpad and twiddler2 and some voice commands. The problem is that you can see the foreground and depth ok as…

I do remember a website a long time ago about a guy walking around with a setup like this. Seemed like it involved lead acid batteries and a lot of weight.

Was really interesting then when desktops were as big as large pizzas.

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Post by Aaron2222 »

xattt wrote: post #156
mojomark wrote: post #24

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I don't know the answer to your question specifically, but in general, if someone tells you the resolution in terms of 'X by Y' pixels, that is unuseful information for an AR display. It drives me bananas that this isn't industry standard after all these years. Instead, you need resolution in terms of Pixels Per Degree (PPD). And, to have any hope of viewing legible text on a virtual monitor projected via an AR HUD,…

I didn’t have the vocabulary to see it this way, nor the 35 PPD standard. My experience with headwear is from circa 2016 VR headsets that were running a racing sim, with awful screen door effects. I realize there’s been a decade of progress. However, seeing random no-name AR glasses and being encouraged to buy them “sight-unseen” by a native content article seems like a recipe for being bamboozled.

> Can you see the small text of individual items of the Word ribbon?

I tried with my Xreal Air on Windows and macOS, and yes, it's quite legible.

Do bear in mind that although the screen is quite close to your eyes, the optics makes the apparent distance quite far. So if you're short-sighted, you will need prescription inserts. I also have some issues with some corners of the screen being slightly cut off, probably a combination of the inserts which I ordered locally as well as the fixed IPD of the older Xreal glasses (the newer Xreal One should be better here with its software IPD adjustment, the Xreal One Pro also comes in two different sizes for different IPD ranges). I also noticed some of the text on the right side of the Word ribbon was a bit blurry, which might be due to the inserts. But in general, I find the display quality great for video, and perfectly good for web browsing (not as good as a Hi-DPI display, but perfectly usable).

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Post by nickzelei »

Cool that they are shipping. I’ve had my eyes on the Visor for a long time now. They seem like the best solution but haven’t shipped yet. Not knocking them but it appears they are in production hell. If there is anyone that’s gotten their hands on a pair, would be curious to know how it stacks up to xreal.

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Post by tdehnke »

videogreg93 wrote: post #107
Mortiffer wrote: post #98

Sounds like sponsored content. Every other review I have read people say they go back to laptop because the text fidelity, eye strain and keyboard on lap is just the best productivity setup

I had trouble believing anything in the article since every sentence or 2 has a link to "the best laptop" or "the best powerbank". Just seems like a hub for a bunch of links to sponsored content.

Don't forget the link to the massively updated Best Chair post, loaded with affiliate links :)

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Post by lnrd »

jareds wrote: post #26

I got excided looking at this hoping there was a laptop with out a screen. I'm totally blind so the power draw of a screen is pointless. I currently use my ROG Alli with a Bluetooth keyboard to connect to my more powerful laptop which has a keyboard that's going bad. While this setup works well and the battery life is pretty good it would be much nicer if I didn't have to put a keyboard on my lap, and the Alli on a t…

Google "headless macbook", there is a community of people making macbooks without displays.

The idea started from recovering macs with a broken display and using them like a mac mini. It's possible to find "broken macs" for cheap in second hand market and if the problem is only the display you can go for the headless approach and have macOS with Apple Silicon for very cheap.

Apple Silicon has outstanding battery life, without a screen I would think even more.

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Post by jean_de_baill »

Where AR glasses realy shine is when used with Samsung Dex. I have been traveling with my XReal Air 2 Pro plugged into my Samsung Galaxy S23 (in m picket) connected to a Bluetooth mouse and foldable keyboard. It packs into a poutch. It is definitely not usable for long (eye strain, blurred edges) but enables me to get some work done on the go ( editing, email, spreadsheets, etc.. )
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