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Re: Apple needs a Snow Sequoia

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Post by datadrivenangel »

MichaelZuo wrote: post #196
nextos wrote: post #167

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Linux power management is pretty good. The problem is that defaults favor desktop and server performance. On a MacBook Air 11, my custom Linux setup and Mac OS had the same battery autonomy, despite Safari being much more energy efficient. The real problem is that, just like the grandparent post pointed out, Apple's software quality has been declining. The Tiger to Snow Leopard epoch was incredible. Apps were simple,…

What’s the actual argument that will credibly convince the top leaders of Apple, to push fixing MacOS up the list of priorities? Because right now it’s clearly so far down, beneath dozens of other priorities, that expecting it to just happen one day seems futile.

It's all their OS software. The Messages app on 18.3 will just... not open the menu to send a photo attachment about ~10% of the time now...

Re: Apple needs a Snow Sequoia

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Post by wyclif »

ad-astra wrote: post #91
alabastervlog wrote: post #90

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... I'm not sure I've ever found any GUI system search reliable enough that I've used it on-purpose (though accidentally, sometimes) on Windows, Linux, or Mac. I always just use "find" and "grep" (and ripgrep when I remember that exists and realize I just grepped a lot and will be waiting for like an hour if I don't re-run the command with rg instead). Or nothing on Windows, which is fine because I haven't used Windo…

Alfred

Spotlight was bad back in the day, so I installed Alfred and started using that. Then Spotlight suddenly improved a lot, enough that it was usable for me, and I deleted Alfred. Then about five years ago something happened internally at Apple to the Spotlight team and it just got worse and worse and more difficult to use, making me regret deleting Alfred.

I wish Apple would just fix Spotlight. They don't seem to think it's worth fixing.

Re: Apple needs a Snow Sequoia

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Post by mvdtnz »

hkpack wrote: post #96
hamandcheese wrote: post #86

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Adding signing as a requirement can easily make what was once a very simple distribution mechanism into something much more complex - now you need manage signing certificates and keys to be able to build your thing. The cost is far far higher than the price.

But it doesn't in practice. I develop and distribute few free apps for macOS, and building / notarising is never a problem.

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Re: Apple needs a Snow Sequoia

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Post by pavel_lishin »

DecentShoes wrote: post #172
lor_louis wrote: post #150

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To be fair, win11 is a nightmare in terms of usability. I can only assume a committee of eldritch beings and accountants designed it. It blows my mind that when right-clicking on a file in file explorer, the 'delete' option is hidden in a sub-menu under 'more options'.

It's deliberate. It's the good-bad-good-bad release cycle Microsoft insists on. Windows 12 will be decent, then 13 will be horrible again.

Ah, so it's like Star Trek movies.

Re: Apple needs a Snow Sequoia

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Post by nextos »

MichaelZuo wrote: post #196
nextos wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Linux power management is pretty good. The problem is that defaults favor desktop and server performance. On a MacBook Air 11, my custom Linux setup and Mac OS had the same battery autonomy, despite Safari being much more energy efficient. The real problem is that, just like the grandparent post pointed out, Apple's software quality has been declining. The Tiger to Snow Leopard epoch was incredible. Apps were simple,…

What’s the actual argument that will credibly convince the top leaders of Apple, to push fixing MacOS up the list of priorities? Because right now it’s clearly so far down, beneath dozens of other priorities, that expecting it to just happen one day seems futile.

IMHO, Mac OS X contributed decisively towards making Apple cool, which was followed by lots of boutique apps and the success of iOS. Loosing that critical mass of developers, even if it's a tiny userbase, would worry me if I was a top leader of Apple.

Re: Apple needs a Snow Sequoia

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Post by pavel_lishin »

HypnoticOcelot wrote: post #61
pavel_lishin wrote: post #20

> I am not suggesting Apple has fallen behind Windows or Android. Changing a setting on Windows 11 can often involve a journey through three or four different interface designs, artifacts of half-implemented changes dating back to the last century. Whenever I find myself stuck outside of Appleland, I am eager to return “home,” flaws and all. Hard agree with this. I sometimes have to boot up a windows laptop to play M…

How come you have to use Windows to play Minecraft? Are you using Bedrock edition?

I... think so? Whichever one works with Microsoft Realms, which is the $2/month solution I settled on after somewhat-getting a self hosted server to run for a little bit on my desktop.

I figured that I make a six-figure salary as a software developer, I can afford $2/month so that I don't have to fucking become a sysadmin for a game server my child depends on.

Re: Apple needs a Snow Sequoia

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY »

For me, I hiched my wagon to the Apple team, years ago, and have held on, through some truly disastrous times.

I can't predict whether or not they will get past this, but I'll keep hanging on, anyway.

The code quality (the bits they let us see), however, seems to be going downhill, as is the quality of the documentation. These are things that always held up, in the past.

It's fairly discouraging. I suspect the quality of their hires has been going down. I'm not sure what it is, they want, but it doesn't seem to be quality.

Re: Apple needs a Snow Sequoia

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Post by pavel_lishin »

starik36 wrote: post #111
pavel_lishin wrote: post #20

> I am not suggesting Apple has fallen behind Windows or Android. Changing a setting on Windows 11 can often involve a journey through three or four different interface designs, artifacts of half-implemented changes dating back to the last century. Whenever I find myself stuck outside of Appleland, I am eager to return “home,” flaws and all. Hard agree with this. I sometimes have to boot up a windows laptop to play M…

I disagree with that. As an occasional user of MacOS, the new Settings app is quite bewildering. There are just as many dials as in Windows and sometimes requires a trip to ChatGPT. And for reasons I don't understand, why is the window itself not resizable?

To be fair, I agree with you that the recent OS X control panel changes suck shit and are awful, and get worse with every update.

Re: Apple needs a Snow Sequoia

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Post by GolDDranks »

rcarmo wrote: post #10

There are some factual "gaps" there about how good Snow Leopard was, but I understand the sentiment. As someone who's been a Mac user since System 6 and has been consistently using Macs alongside PCs _daily_ for over 20 years I can say that Apple's software quality (either in terms of polish or just plain QA) has steadily decreased. It's just that me and other old-time switchers have stopped complaining about it and…

My biggest annoyance with recent macOS versions that most QuickLook plugins stopped working. Apparently one could re-develop them with their new framework-of-the-day, but I have no doubt a lion's share of what I'm using will just become abandonware.

Re: Apple needs a Snow Sequoia

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Post by tracerbulletx »

datadrivenangel wrote: post #211
MichaelZuo wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What’s the actual argument that will credibly convince the top leaders of Apple, to push fixing MacOS up the list of priorities? Because right now it’s clearly so far down, beneath dozens of other priorities, that expecting it to just happen one day seems futile.

It's all their OS software. The Messages app on 18.3 will just... not open the menu to send a photo attachment about ~10% of the time now...

Ya and it’s something in maybe the top 3 of most used user actions. Really indefensible
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