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Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week

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Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week

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In China WeChat is the dominant messaging platform, SMS is only used for delivery notifications, spam, etc.

I understand that. My point was that the original comment was grossly overstating the supposed 'dominance' of WhatsApp.

Whatsapp is dominant in most countries in world, it's not overstating. Your 3 country example mean nothing in comparison.

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The dude is solid as it gets on all this. Yet people ignore him and then realize that was one of those too late types

none of us have economic incentives to build global infrastrcture. Let me know what governments decide among the people that there's value in open source and it's software

AOSP staying open to community patches in practice is "global infrastructure"?

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Not true at all. This effect is pretty common in countries outside of US. It makes sense. WhatsApp is just another messaging app thats popular depending on a local whim. Where as iMessages get sent automatically between iOS users.

What countries other than US is this so prevalent?

I didnt say this is so prevalent. Just that it exists.

My experience from few european countries is that middle class - tech/business/law people have iOS. Go to tech or business conference and its all iphones.

So its really easy to be in such circles. I live in EU country and its all iMessage or Signal. Nobody uses WhatsApp if something its Facebook Messenger or Instagram messages.

Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week

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Not true at all. This effect is pretty common in countries outside of US. It makes sense. WhatsApp is just another messaging app thats popular depending on a local whim. Where as iMessages get sent automatically between iOS users.

I'm sure there are dozens of people in Germany who actively prefer iMessage but I haven't met one yet. Whatsapp achieved pretty much total market capture here back when SMS still were costly and the network effects that arose from that are among the strongest I've ever seen. I'm pretty sure if someone was to do a survey, almost everyone would say Messages is for SMS only and I think most of them wouldn't know it can…

Yet i write with most of my German friends using iMessages because its automatic and i dont have Telegram or WhatsApp because nobody uses it in my european country.

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I recently bought a 240 Hz OLED monitor as well, but to my dismay the 80 Gbps data rate mode is actually optional in DisplayPort 2.1a. Even though I have a DP2.1-capable GPU (9070 XT) and monitor, it's not possible to do 4k 10bit HDR at 240 Hz with DSC off. Since I don't want compression to be on I've compromised to sticking with 180 Hz, which as you say due to the diminishing returns above 120 is still plenty. Still…

Why do you need DSC off?

Psychology more than anything, to be honest. I know it's supposed to be visually lossless, but it does touch and nudge many pixels, and I just want the raw image. I do dabble in graphics and UI frontend at times, and I don't want to take chances. It's something that spending a little more time digging into the algorithmic details of DSC might address for me, but I haven't so far.

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Unless you live outside of the US in which nobody gives a damn and they all use WhatsApp. After moving, I only get sms messages from the doctors office and my friends back in America.

True, but God does WhatsApp suck. They've got a billion-strong userbase and yet the Android app still dumped literally every attachment I received into my camera roll until I manually added '.nomedia' files in the right places. And, oh man, the API for businesses is a Kafkaesque nightmare. Maybe it was good before it got Zucked, but I had to fight with their support for over a week to get an automated ban-hammer over…

That's a feature, not a bug Users are conditioned to look there for any kind of image on their device

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Stallman was right again.

and yet, corporate drones will make fun of him, and they will keep missing the point...

Maybe they are not missing the point? Maybe the making fun is some sort of targeted hostility and opposition?

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On [1], If you only look at countries with decent GDP per Capita. iOS will have anywhere from 40 to 65% market share. Even in China iOS is well over 30%. When you consider Africa + ASEAN + India has 3.5B population and has very low iPhone market share that sort of Skew the figures.

Yeah, weighting the figures by GDP makes sense. Indeed, poor people aren't really people at all.

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Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week

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Unless you live outside of the US in which nobody gives a damn and they all use WhatsApp. After moving, I only get sms messages from the doctors office and my friends back in America.

True, but God does WhatsApp suck. They've got a billion-strong userbase and yet the Android app still dumped literally every attachment I received into my camera roll until I manually added '.nomedia' files in the right places. And, oh man, the API for businesses is a Kafkaesque nightmare. Maybe it was good before it got Zucked, but I had to fight with their support for over a week to get an automated ban-hammer over…

> literally every attachment I received into my camera roll

There's a global setting for this: media visibility: off.

Then you can enable that per chat.

I have all chat images contained to only Whatsapp by default. Then I only enable some chats (family, friends) to expose images/videos to the phone.

Google Photos scoops those and backsup all family pictures shared to whatsapp to my Google Photos.

I'm the family's reliable source of truth when it comes to family photos.

Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week

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>The source will still be released Lol nice pipe dream. The source isn't even fully released today.

The source for AOSP. Individual Android devices have never been open source (minus some very few exceptions), and they have no obligation to do so as AOSP is Apache/permissively licensed. Note that the demand for secrecy is primarily driven by device manufacturers, not Google. Manufacturers want to keep their "secret sauce" from their competitors.

Google has gradually been moving things from AOSP (open) to GApps (closed). Some of the things that have been moved are fairly essential for a mobile operating system (like a location provider and a SMS app). Projects building on AOSP now have to provide replacements, or declare them out of scope and punt.
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