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The great Hobby Lobby artifact heist

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Post by BobaFloutist »

gadders wrote: post #101
armchairhacker wrote: post #63

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Although it sounds very bad, there’s actually a good argument for paying disabled workers below-minimum wage: - Disabled people get paid (what is supposed to be, but not actually, a living wage) by the government, so they aren’t living on the wage. - No company would hire them if they were forced to pay minimum wage, because companies are greedy and would always hire a more productive non-disabled worker. - Many disa…

Yes, there was debate about this in the UK. If a disabled person can only do one widget per hour, and an able-bodied can do 10, what is the correct wage for that disabled person? If you think they should both be paid the same, who should pay the additional cost?

Right but minimum wage exceptions invariably end up with disabled people getting paid 1/10 minimum wage to do 9 or 10 widgets an hour.

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Post by lurk2 »

MrMcCall wrote: post #206
lurk2 wrote: post #192

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> but our govt should reflect the generosity of spirit we are called to manifest. The whole notion of state welfare necessarily involves the forcible expropriation of property, resistance to which is punishable by death. If I took $20 out of your wallet and gave it to someone else who I thought needed it more, it would not be charity, it would be theft. > i.e. we cannot serve two masters This was never suggested. Wea…

> involves the forcible expropriation of property If you don't want to live in that society, move somewhere else. That's your free choice, too, but I counsel against it. Are you directly choosing to help maintain roads, and hospitals, and everything else that helps society function? No, but your taxes are. > Is your soul in danger because you own a laptop, or is there more nuance to this issue than you're suggesting?…

> I am explaining these things for your benefit, not mine.

You haven’t explained anything. Get over yourself.

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Post by mock-possum »

gowld wrote: post #193
mock-possum wrote: post #17

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Isn’t the hobby lobby crew also notoriously queer bashers? I would think the issue is not so much that they’re Christian, it’s that they’re hypocrites who use Christianity as a smokescreen for bigotry. (The relevance being, they’re using Christianity as cover for capitalism in a way that Jesus himself, as depicted in the Bible, would certainly never have sanctioned.)

If your morality welcomes homosexuality, that's fine. But anti-homosexuality is not un-Christian. Jesus never opposed "capitalism" in secular life.

Capitalism itself? Maybe not.

But - “And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.”

Jesus was very clear about how far worldly riches would get you.

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