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Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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> You could hire several thousand best in class engineers How easy is this? Especially if you're doing it on an accelerated timeline, it seems like you'd have to pay above market to poach thousands of best-in-class engineers, and then you're stuck with higher salary expenses forever.

Google already employs some of the best software engineers in the world. In fact they’ve been laying off thousands of them. Google, like most big companies struggles to innovate because succeeding at a big company and making something fresh and new are different and often mutually exclusive skills. If they could have built it themselves they would have.

> In fact they’ve been laying off thousands of them

Citation please? Last layoff at Google of any significance was over 2 years ago in the post-pandemic cleanup era..

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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I'm surprised this acquisition didn't happen sooner. The first time I used Wiz I knew a big cloud provider would be snatching them up at some point. Why? Because every enterprise that decides to use cloud providers then needs to find someone to keep that cloud environment safe. But also, and may more important, you get to see everyones cloud usage, across all providers, with a high level of permissions. Said differen…

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Wiz is used by 45% of Fortune 500 companies and you're thinking someone is making up that they used it? This is unnecessarily mistrustful / conspiracy thinking. What censorship btw?

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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You are saying this as if the founder is a normal civilian. The guy served in unit 8200 and 81 around the beginning of the 2000s(Second Intifada, first g a z a war, if not more), and overstayed his mandatory service. This isn't a normal company, just like every Israeli security "startup" with founders coming from idf intelligence units. Even ignoring this, 32b for such a company just doesn't make sense.

Yes, the world is a very simple, non-complex system. People can be either child killing monsters or complete saints.

> People can be either child killing monsters or complete saints.

That's not OP's claim? Although, I'd expect anyone who claims to be G-d's chosen people (religious fundamentalists pretty much anywhere) to anoint themselves saints. The corner stone for the kind of supremacist race/culture theories popular not so long ago.

No one's fault that a nation conscripts all its adults into what some (I don't) perceive as "killing machine" (especially, post 1967). Those adults could refuse, but most don't, for whatever reason. Post WW2, there's a general disgust for war and its proponents, regardless of who or where; except these folks who are even celebrated in tech / US.

> the world is a very simple, non-complex system

  "I hated the notion of occupation since the very beginning. My first memories from after the 67 war are travelling with my children in the occupied territories. There were awnings over groceries stores with Hebrew lettering advertising Osem noodles. I couldn't bear it. I thought that was dreadful because I remembered German lettering in France. I have very strong feelings about Israel as an occupier."
And that scathing (Nazi Germany's occupation of France) comparison comes from Danny Kahneman (who, ironically, played his part in the "killing machine" himself). https://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/jul/18/daniel-kahnema...

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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When you use a cloud provider to setup a VM, what policies do you apply to it in order to ensure it’s secure? Wiz and other tools in the same space tell you and tracks compliance across your fleet. Idk if wiz does this, but their competitors have “compliance packs” which are preset compliance patterns, IE hipaa, finra, etc. That way you click a button and it tells you every change you need to make to be compliant Edi…

Figures. Crazy how badly I midsized this problem. When I was working on a cloud provider I suspected this would be a big problem space for building in, but I thought it was in the low billions, I was thinking (I guess stupidly) that the clouds and tools around them would be kind enough to create a lot of standardization so as at least this stuff wasn't junk. I get wanting to create a bit of friction, but thought "thi…

Idk about other clouds, but Google didn’t eat their own cloud dog food when I was there. We had people food (borg) that was kinda impossible to separate from the infrastructure of google3 (and Google dev processes) and so cloud was built different. It wouldn’t surprise me if that organization just had no awareness of how bad the friction really was for long enough for Wiz to get really good at it?

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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I'm marginally in the IT space... Is there anything to my reaction that at least in dollar terms this is a multiple of the dollar amount of what Whatsapp was acquired back in the day, which was a large consumer facing product that I could see was quite literally taking over messaging all over the world, and this is a... platform I've never heard of? I'm just trying to make sense of the numbers.

Wiz is enterprise software aimed at and popular with large companies that need to check all the compliancy boxes, and according to sources used by >40% of the Fortune 500 companies. It's also only 5 years old, so that's a ridiculously fast growth.

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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post #102

I'm surprised this acquisition didn't happen sooner. The first time I used Wiz I knew a big cloud provider would be snatching them up at some point. Why? Because every enterprise that decides to use cloud providers then needs to find someone to keep that cloud environment safe. But also, and may more important, you get to see everyones cloud usage, across all providers, with a high level of permissions. Said differen…

For a truly multi cloud customer, your second point switches from being a pro to being a con as soon as Google owns it. Why would you give one of your cloud vendors visibility over your footprint across their competition?
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