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Moving away from US cloud services

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Re: Moving away from US cloud services

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post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 3. ProtonVPN: Good on paper, totally untrusted and blocked by the internet. I can't navigate without filling 10 captchas or just be outright blocked. Even residential IPs are being blocked nowadays, we have Cloudflare to thank for that.

I get banned within 5 minutes when I browse Hermes or LV websites, fun stuff...

I got banned from dash.cloudflare.com because apparently opening a few new tabs quickly is enough…

Re: Moving away from US cloud services

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> git repos: too hard I've found OneDev (selfhosted) to be an excellent alternative, unlike others which feel either half-baked or require a lot of configuration/maintenance

You'd think git repos were the easiest to migrate, just `git remote set-url ` and go. But people get locked in with Issues and CI I guess.

Re: Moving away from US cloud services

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post #195

Even if you try to look at the situation from a detached POV I think you can't help but be baffled at how much influence the US is giving up for no apparent reason. It always felt like a house of cards here in Europe - we rely on defense from the US, we store so much of our data there, and almost all of our stuff comes from China or its area of influence. Now there's a guy at the top of the US who doesn't understand…

There is no countries in Europe, it's the Europe union, the WEF. Just look at your immigration policy and birth rate. Europe is commiting suicide.

The US is waking up from that strange nightmare, going back to self gouvernance.

Don't be afraid of Trump, look instead at what is happening at home.

(all big US monopolies are trojan horses, same is true for China)

Re: Moving away from US cloud services

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A shame that OP recommends Proton. The fact they don't support open email protocols like IMAP/SMTP without an extremely frustrating proxy setup is what ultimately turned me away from their service. Being able to "just" use a native mail client is pretty much a must. The vendor lock-in from something like Proton feels way worse as a result. Can't speak to Proton Pass, but it strikes me as a replacement that seems unne…

I am migrating away from Proton. In theory they check all marks, in practice they fail in delivering baseline functionality in all categories. 1. The Web interface email is so-so, but the proxy email bridge is really heavy and takes a huge amount of disk space. It also makes my computer start flying from time to time. The iOS email client(very important as they dont support standard protocols) is just useless. The te…

What are you migrating to?

Re: Moving away from US cloud services

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A shame that OP recommends Proton. The fact they don't support open email protocols like IMAP/SMTP without an extremely frustrating proxy setup is what ultimately turned me away from their service. Being able to "just" use a native mail client is pretty much a must. The vendor lock-in from something like Proton feels way worse as a result. Can't speak to Proton Pass, but it strikes me as a replacement that seems unne…

What's a good alternative to Proton? Still haven't migrated my business away from Google Workspace, and I was thinking Proton would be a good alternative, but apparently not if they don't even support IMAP/SMTP.

Maybe I'm missing something, but: just use a local ISP? We use Hostpoint (Switzerland) for our websites and email.

Re: Moving away from US cloud services

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> Wrapping up - Migrating away from US cloud services was easier than I expected. This is absolutely not the main takeaway and I find it difficult to see how he could write this - there are gaping holes. Git repos (it's too difficult). NPM (ditto). Startpage uses Google's index. The only meaningful switch he mentions is Proton, but as other comments have pointed out they have vendor lock-in problems. The real takeawa…

> European companies to step up

... and drown in regulations and taxes. There's a reason why the vast, vast majority of IT startups are not in the EU.

Source: am a startup in the EU.

Re: Moving away from US cloud services

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post #72

> Wrapping up - Migrating away from US cloud services was easier than I expected. This is absolutely not the main takeaway and I find it difficult to see how he could write this - there are gaping holes. Git repos (it's too difficult). NPM (ditto). Startpage uses Google's index. The only meaningful switch he mentions is Proton, but as other comments have pointed out they have vendor lock-in problems. The real takeawa…

> Git repos (it's too difficult) Sourcehut > Startpage uses Google's index. If they have enough users/make enough money, they'll make their own. Ecosia and Qwant (both european search engines) are working together to make their own index. In any case, even if a european is a proxy for an american service, you need to prove that there is a market for an european equivalent for change to happen.

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Re: Moving away from US cloud services

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post #37

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Something important to keep in mind... It's the current US leadership blowing up relationships, not the other way around.

That's arguable. If you're in an unequal relationship the best way to go about them is to reset them to a base equal state and then build the relationship again.

Re: Moving away from US cloud services

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A shame that OP recommends Proton. The fact they don't support open email protocols like IMAP/SMTP without an extremely frustrating proxy setup is what ultimately turned me away from their service. Being able to "just" use a native mail client is pretty much a must. The vendor lock-in from something like Proton feels way worse as a result. Can't speak to Proton Pass, but it strikes me as a replacement that seems unne…

What's a good alternative to Proton? Still haven't migrated my business away from Google Workspace, and I was thinking Proton would be a good alternative, but apparently not if they don't even support IMAP/SMTP.

I use migadu with thunderbird. Can't complain. Cheap and does what I need it to.

https://www.migadu.com/index.html

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