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Anime fans stumbled upon a mathematical proof

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Re: Anime fans stumbled upon a mathematical proof

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There's something unbelievably funny to me that actual mathematical papers have to cite a 4chan post. It does make me wonder how much hidden knowledge is hidden in parts of the internet; maybe this is the only genius mathematical thing we've found on 4chan...

What comes to mind is TempleOS, I'm confident there's a lot of really interesting code decisions and algorithms in there. Of course the other factor is your own comprehension powers; I can't comprehend math or complex algorithms, so I don't actually know if there are any that I could apply to my usual software development problems. (I doubt it, it's high level front end stuff, all the complex bits are lower down)

I asked a question years ago about trying to make a “real” operating system out of TempleOS [1], because I agree there’s probably some more to it than just a meme.

I don’t know enough about operating systems to really know if there’s anything clever in there, but that gets to your point; part of the issue comes down to the ability to understand what you’re reading, as you pointed out.

If I had seen the original 4chan post back when it was new, I wouldn’t have thought much of it, because I don’t know anything about superpermutations or combinatorics. If I had seen the post, I would have thought “oh there’s some math I never learned, cool” and moved on, not realizing its significance.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14075795

Re: Anime fans stumbled upon a mathematical proof

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At one of my old jobs, the bathroom was locked with a 4 digit code followed by the key symbol. We jokingly made up "Bathroom Code" as an interview question/to nerd snipe each other instead of working, which was "assuming you don't have to press key, and that the bathroom door will unlock if the correct 4 digits are entered in order at any time, write the code to print the shortest possible test sequence to guarantee…

You know Ford/Lincoln had those buttons / touch strip in the door with the buttons labelled like [1|2] [3|4], and so on to [9|0]? There's a permutation list claimed to be the shortest that I used to carry in my PDA to impress friends that had one of those sorts of cars. If I recall, it was guaranteed to open the door in something like 32 button presses, but it may have been less. It was because there was no "start" o…

3+5432=123, so 4 digit code would require at least 134 key presses.

Even 3 digit code would require over 60 keypresses.

We're there other constraints on valid codes?

Did the door unlock in a valid non-consecutive* subsequence like 3,4,5,0,6?

Re: Anime fans stumbled upon a mathematical proof

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's an anime website though.

How so? It's a very general-purpose image board and has a been for a long time.

The two aren't contradictory, it's more that due to historic traditions as an offshoot of 2chan and cross-board culture, "otaku" culture still exerts a strong influence on most of the boards.

Re: Anime fans stumbled upon a mathematical proof

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At one of my old jobs, the bathroom was locked with a 4 digit code followed by the key symbol. We jokingly made up "Bathroom Code" as an interview question/to nerd snipe each other instead of working, which was "assuming you don't have to press key, and that the bathroom door will unlock if the correct 4 digits are entered in order at any time, write the code to print the shortest possible test sequence to guarantee…

You know Ford/Lincoln had those buttons / touch strip in the door with the buttons labelled like [1|2] [3|4], and so on to [9|0]? There's a permutation list claimed to be the shortest that I used to carry in my PDA to impress friends that had one of those sorts of cars. If I recall, it was guaranteed to open the door in something like 32 button presses, but it may have been less. It was because there was no "start" o…

Is this a mean trick to snipe HN users into thinking about algorithms for hours? I have a friend who wants to know.

Re: Anime fans stumbled upon a mathematical proof

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Clicking around the previous discussions, it appears that the original question was posted on /sci/, a science and math board on 4chan, and not an anime board, as everybody who writes about this states. This is apparently an archive of the original post: http://4watch.org/superstring/ It's a question to a math community, using an anime meme template and referencing another anime. The discussion is very much not some…

4chan has more valuable information than Reddit. Reddit has a lot of echo chambers with useless information

Re: Anime fans stumbled upon a mathematical proof

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post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I recommend watching the Internet Historian's video series on He Will Not Divide Us for similarly ingenious buffoonery.

The He Will Not Divide Us saga teached me, really early, to never leave any personal information on the web, and above all, to never piss off groups of male teenagers/early adults with a lot of free time on their hands and a penchant for doing anything for the lolz.

"male teenagers/early adults", pretty big assumption there.

Re: Anime fans stumbled upon a mathematical proof

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Clicking around the previous discussions, it appears that the original question was posted on /sci/, a science and math board on 4chan, and not an anime board, as everybody who writes about this states. This is apparently an archive of the original post: http://4watch.org/superstring/ It's a question to a math community, using an anime meme template and referencing another anime. The discussion is very much not some…

I fear I'm responsible for this misconception. At first we didn't realise the proof had originated on 4chan – Nathaniel Johnston originally found the proof on Wikia, and the 4chan archive was only discovered later. When I tweeted about it, I said “The best known lower bound for the minimal length of superpermutations was proved by an anonymous user of a wiki mainly devoted to anime.”, by which I meant Wikia (which wa…

>At first we didn't realise the proof had originated on 4chan – Nathaniel Johnston originally found the proof on Wikia

>by an anonymous user of a wiki mainly devoted to anime.”, by which I meant Wikia (which was pretty anime-centric at the time).

The Wikia in question is the official 4chan /sci/ Wikia.

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