It's been in development for five years. https://github.com/revoltchat/backend/tags?after=0.2.6
Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord
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Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord
#212Reminder that discord is an app for kids. Is your open source code and volunteer run project going to keep kids safe? Is it an advantage that the comms protocols are open and everyone can build bots? Or a disadvantage for this usecase? Also, how is it an alternative for Discord if it's in a whole different jurisdiction?
> Reminder that discord is an app for kids. Why is that?
Have you seen the UI? Nothing fit for adults, who value their attention and time.
Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord
#213Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord
#214The biggest selling point of Discord is its insane network effects. There are servers for libraries/frameworks, languages, ai/ml, math, whatever you can think of. And a lot of the adjacent ones will cross-link scheduled events and messages from other servers. I'm really hoping for an alternative. I'm always weary of en-shitification whenever a single platform wins all the users.. like what has happened to Reddit.
Am I the only person who sees this as a negative? I don't want everything I do to be in the same place.
This isn't a stance driven primarily by privacy/security requirements, although making e.g. compartmentalisation possible is generally a positive thing. Rather, my issue is with mixing business and pleasure, or even business A with business B, so to speak.
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#215Earlier quoted context omitted.
Rather than open or closed source programs, let's have interoperability. Then everyone can choose. I believe Facebook was aiming for something like that with Threads, and was playing to have WhatsApp and Facebook Messenger be open to a specific standard as well? I fondly remember the days of Pidgin and Adium..
This is literally the old Microsoft playbook for destroying open source software. “Embrace, extend, extinguish”. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_documents They did it with XMPP and Windows live messenger in the 2000s. At the end of the day these companies have no incentive to be responsible stewards of open protocols. The moment they have a tough quarter they’ll eviscerate it if it means they’ll make a buck.
MS Comic Chat was built on top of IRC.
I’m happy IRC is still around in spite of that.
Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord
#2163'000+ lines of code <- this seems pretty low
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#217Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Reminder that discord is an app for kids. Why is that?
Have you seen the UI? Nothing fit for adults, who value their attention and time.
Sorry, I don't see it. I can quickly jump around channels and server with shortcuts, the UI looks similar to other chat apps. Auto-Embed can be disabled, if that steals your attention. Or what do you mean?
Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord
#218How is open-source supposed to compete without access to Apple's certificates? If you are constantly forced to override the warnings about unsigned software, assuming your system even allows you in the first place, how much friction before less technical users give up? Code signing is good, I like it, I approve, but it is a big obstacle for me personally and others who cannot afford Apple Developer Credentials.
I'm pretty sure I use many open-source projects that have Apple's certificates. So the only question is communities desire. There is no technical problem here.
> There is no technical problem here.
Just financial and organizational one. Not every open-source project is going to do that.
Not sure why Apple had to change how Gatekeeper works. I will have to look for an alternative once my mbp dies. It gets tiresome to fight with the OS for every other app after every update now. Especially when it worked perfectly OK before.
Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord
#219It's been in development for five years. https://github.com/revoltchat/backend/tags?after=0.2.6
Are they using exiting protocols and networks? Or is it entirely bespoke protocols?
Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord
#220Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean, if you are looking for a Discord alternative, isn't the design/UX part of what you're looking for? If you want something that is the opposite of what you describe, IRC still exists and works well, but not sure many end-users would call it an alternative to Discord.
> isn't the design/UX part of what you're looking for? I think this applies to the original target audience, namely gamers, but as a general purpose chat application, e.g. as a support channel for software projects, the UI design of Discord is indeed atrocious. Of course, this begs the question why these projects adopted Discord in the first place. I guess the lack of a better alternative (that is not self-hosted)?
> as a support channel for software projects, the UI design of Discord is indeed atrocious.
Why is that?