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Introducing Outlook.com - Modern Email for the Next Billion Mailboxes

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Re: Introducing Outlook.com - Modern Email for the Next Billion Mailboxes

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There's a blogpost on HackerNews' "best" links right now that complains that "Apple's new ads look like Microsoft made them" http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4313614

Interestingly enough, the ads created by Microsoft touting Outlook.com don't have any of these problems the blogpost associates with Microsoft ads. In fact, the ads excites me and compels me to at least try the product.

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It's not just SkyDrive. They also actively filter evil links out of your email. You know, like http://piratebay.se/ .

> They also actively filter evil links out of your email. You know, like http://piratebay.se/ . They do? I was able to send myself several test messages containing this link.

Dug up the link and...doh! It was Live Messenger[1]. Right company, wrong product; but I think the point holds.

1. http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120326/04530718244/micros...

Re: Introducing Outlook.com - Modern Email for the Next Billion Mailboxes

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post #72

We haven't instantly forgotten how Microsoft handles Skydrive, have we?: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4265086 I think I'll pass on putting my email through their systems. Although I have to admit this looks way better than GMail. I hope this inspires Google to do something about their interface design.

It would indeed appear that since outlook is also a Live product, it follows the same code of conduct banning nudity. There's no reason to assume that they wouldn't scan the service similarly.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-live/code-of-cond...

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I've been using Outlook by choice, well, forever. I won't bother listing all the reasons for this. It's powerful and it works well. And, if you are a programmer, you can go to town writing your own customizations with VBA. I use Yahoo Mail online for most of my personal stuff. Out of all the online email offerings out there I have found it to be the most "polished" (if I can use that term) and outlook-like. I tried G…

Gmail has "Preview Pane" option under the Labs tab in Settings. I don't use it personally, but I am pretty sure it has been there for at least a few years.

Any unpaid account has a chance of being shut down without recourse. I haven't heard of this happening with any Google Apps accounts though (especially paid ones). Anyone else?

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post #156
post #72

We haven't instantly forgotten how Microsoft handles Skydrive, have we?: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4265086 I think I'll pass on putting my email through their systems. Although I have to admit this looks way better than GMail. I hope this inspires Google to do something about their interface design.

You needn't look any farther than Hotmail to grow wary of the merits of their new service. And there's the whole Skype brouhaha. Microsoft have an edge over Google in that they aren't perceived to be as morally bankrupt, when it comes to privacy and protecting their users (because they earn their money elsewhere), but with the Skype criticism, that may be subject to change. It's a nice flank of attack to use against…

because they earn their money elsewhere?

This is a terribly odd statement. Microsoft has shown, time and time again, that they can shaft their customers because many of them have, or at least had, few alternatives. Google might make a lot of its money on advertising, but it wouldn't make a penny if it didn't have the trust and respect of its customers.

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I've been using Outlook by choice, well, forever. I won't bother listing all the reasons for this. It's powerful and it works well. And, if you are a programmer, you can go to town writing your own customizations with VBA. I use Yahoo Mail online for most of my personal stuff. Out of all the online email offerings out there I have found it to be the most "polished" (if I can use that term) and outlook-like. I tried G…

I find Sparrow does that so incredibly well. I use 2 accounts daily, and have 2 more for "spam" accounts. It works really well at separating and unifying them.

I've asked the question before: is modern spam filtering not enough? I used to have several accounts to void spam, but that was pre-bayesian. Filtering works great now and I use the same email for everything and anything..

Re: Introducing Outlook.com - Modern Email for the Next Billion Mailboxes

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post #156
post #72

We haven't instantly forgotten how Microsoft handles Skydrive, have we?: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4265086 I think I'll pass on putting my email through their systems. Although I have to admit this looks way better than GMail. I hope this inspires Google to do something about their interface design.

You needn't look any farther than Hotmail to grow wary of the merits of their new service. And there's the whole Skype brouhaha. Microsoft have an edge over Google in that they aren't perceived to be as morally bankrupt, when it comes to privacy and protecting their users (because they earn their money elsewhere), but with the Skype criticism, that may be subject to change. It's a nice flank of attack to use against…

Not trying to be smug, but I bet you're younger than 30, if you can say that with a straight face.

Re: Introducing Outlook.com - Modern Email for the Next Billion Mailboxes

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post #110

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And I'm going to hope and pray that google stops screwing with their interface design. Gmail was perfect.

Good luck with that. SAAS means you're vulnerable to vendor change with every pageload. Though there are getting to be tools which allow you to reverse-engineer sites and design them how you want, but this is subject to a lot of churn keeping up with the SAAS vendor. Still lovin' my mutt.

True, but it would be nice to augment Mutt with things like tags and conversations[1] without having convoluted setups involving hacks with external scripts.

Another example, it would be really cool to be able to edit email as Markdown/Textile/reStructuredText and have it converted to a text+html (multipart/alternative) email, but currently there is no way to do that with Mutt without using some sort of sendmail wrapper that does this.

[1] I realize that Gmail's threading isn't 'true' threading, but I'm talking about pulling in the entire thread even if it's not part of the current email folder.

Re: Introducing Outlook.com - Modern Email for the Next Billion Mailboxes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They also actively filter evil links out of your email. You know, like http://piratebay.se/ . They do? I was able to send myself several test messages containing this link.

Dug up the link and...doh! It was Live Messenger[1]. Right company, wrong product; but I think the point holds. 1. http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120326/04530718244/micros...

Humorous mistake of a similar nature: I recently tried to link to a post about Skype becoming more susceptible to policing when it had previously been far more resilient. Messenger warned me that the link was dangerous. After a few minutes I discovered that it was the ow.ly service that was flagged as "dangerous" rather than the blog post.

I was losing my head for a few minutes.

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