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Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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At this point there’s only really one thing I want from an iPhone and that’s an option for a 12/13 mini sized device again. Surely those phones didn’t sell so few that it’s not worth doing at all?

If they can standardize their whole lineup around two sizes, regular and max, then I think it will be a very hard sell to add extra work and complexity for the production lines for a smaller size that sells both lower volumes and lower price. Don't get me wrong, I love the Mini and have one right now, but from a business management perspective I can totally see how getting rid of it makes sense. Another aspect that I…

AFAIK Samsung doesn’t offer any mini devices either. If that’s true, it’s probably for the same reasons Apple doesn’t.

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At this point there’s only really one thing I want from an iPhone and that’s an option for a 12/13 mini sized device again. Surely those phones didn’t sell so few that it’s not worth doing at all?

The Mini didn't sell well...for an iPhone.

I have a 13 mini and will use it until it dies...just like the SE before it.

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I always hear people on hn asking for smaller screen. Apple actually made a small 12. It was the worst selling phone in the lineup.

Not only on HN, everywhere around me. It has to do with country trends I guess. In France, so many people want small phones. They just cannot buy them anymore, they're not produced.

Apple should just start a preorder site for a small iPhone 17 and wait until enough are collected to make it.

(Or do what I always thought they should do and have a small iPhone and a normal sized one with identical internals, only the case, battery, and screen would be different.)

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This is aimed at the lower end of the market: the pre/postpaid MVNOs and deal hunters. And for kids. The new modem is interesting. How much power around the world is being wasted because Qualcomm's code sucks? Apparently gigawatts per day.

My cell phone has a 3.7v, 2018 mAh battery, for a total of 7.4 watt-hours. That's enough power to drive a Tesla Model 3 Standard Range Plus a distance of... 55 meters. Even if Qualcomm's code was solely responsible for completely draining my phone's battery every single day, it would still not be very much power.

Multiply that by 100 million phones and you'll understand what I'm saying.

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Why are small phones not economical for major flagship phone developers? Obviously more expensive phones generate more revenue, but the reduced bill of materials on smaller phones should allow a better profit margin? Mostly I just want a phone that is comfortable in my hands.

> but the reduced bill of materials on smaller phones should allow a better profit margin?

Is there a significantly reduced bill of materials? At best, the correlation between size and cost is very small. Most of the costs are in software, manufacturing, etc, not in materials.

Also, would there be a better profit margin? I bet customers won’t want to pay the same for a smaller phone, certainly not give that it will have lower battery life (power usage will, at best, go up with screen area, and battery volume will go up faster than phone volume because parts such as CPUs will not be smaller in smaller phones)

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iPhone SE: $429, 4.7-inch display, 5.45 x 2.65 x 0.29, 5.09 ounces iPhone 16e: $599, 6.1-inch display, 5.78 x 2.82 x 0.31, 5.88 ounces This is a major downgrade in every way for people who want the smallest possible iPhone.

It's basically 6% longer, wider, and thicker. I like small phones. 6% doesn't seem all that different from the current SE. The fact that all that space seems to be going to battery life does seem nice...

Well it's 11% longer, wider, and thicker than the 13 mini, which has better everything than the SE.

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At the scale of Apple, is a specific device configuration that 'only' meets the needs of 3% of their market economically unviable? Did they build a whole special factory just for the slightly smaller device?

Not a whole factory but whole other tooling, so yes? The chassis is different, the screen is different, the mainboard is different, the layout is different, the battery is different, I think the camera was also different. Only thing shared between the other models was the buttons and the lightning port. It's a huge cost for something that sold (relatively) poorly.

The should have designed two phones, normal size and small, where the internals are the same and the only difference is the case/battery/screen.

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> No MagSafe, only Qi. Qi2 is based on Magsafe. https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/3/23538131/qi2-wireless-char...

Qi2 doesn’t require the magnetic component however.

True but the alignment magnets of MagSafe and Qi2 were a huge quality of life improvement. You are probably better off just using USB to charge this one
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