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Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Aren't racists a minority who struggle to express themselves? How did you come to these conclusions about the goals and future of Twitter? My naive expectation was that Musk is mostly interested in enriching and aggrandizing himself, and that a crusade against some social group is only interesting as long as it serves the primary interests.

>>Aren't racists a minority who struggle to express themselves? Maybe (if it's about black or white), but anti-Semites have a pretty loud and public voice in the "Western" world.

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Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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So much for Elons "Free Speech"! This may come as a shock to him: Free Speech means to allow people to say something that he disagree with. Something that may hurt his interests or even his ego. Free speech is not to allow people to say things he agree with or don't care about.

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Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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You’re reading too much into it. Stop thinking he’s playing 5D chess, he’s not even playing regular checkers. It’s well known he bought Twitter because he thought he would be forced to, he clearly tried to actively back out of the purchase. https://techcrunch.com/2023/04/12/elon-musk-admits-he-only-b...

The parent post is by and large correct, except for the right-hand man of Donald Trump stuff. Musk was indeed trying to buy influence, which is definitely not a "5D chess move" but simply common sense for extremely wealthy people if they can get away with it. He also wanted to ensure that he is always the center of attention and intended to use twitter as the marketing arm for his brand. He only wanted to back out once US and global economic indicators started going south and made his offer look ridiculously overpriced, and also made himself look like a sucker. And Musk does not like being the sucker. But his wanting to back out later doesn't cancel out his initial intentions. And once he was forced to buy it, he started playing high stakes poker and managed to turn it into a great investment for him personally by the end of 2024, becoming one of the most powerful men in the world in addition to being the richest. How long it will last might depend on how many consecutive presidential terms the Republicans can hold on to.

The righthand man for Trump stuff was never the intention initially. Musk went gaga for Trump rather late, he was a DeSantis supporter after all, with DeSantis launching his terrible presidential bid on Elon's twitter.

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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> Remember how he exposed government meddling with twitter and everyone called it nothing burger. Please provide actual evidence of said government meddling with Twitter.

IIRC, Twitter(and several other social media platforms) was asked to limit/block accounts that were spreading Covid misinformation at the height of the pandemic. You know, the kind of stuff a functioning government interested in protecting ALL of it's citizens would do. That's "heart" of this "government meddling" excuse. I would say there is all sorts of "government meddling" going on right now, with all the uncerta…

A government might want to do it for good motives, but its still a restriction on free speech.

Otherwise you are appointing some group of people to decide what is "good speech" and "bad speech" and banning the latter.

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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post #7

So much for Elons "Free Speech"! This may come as a shock to him: Free Speech means to allow people to say something that he disagree with. Something that may hurt his interests or even his ego. Free speech is not to allow people to say things he agree with or don't care about.

“Free speech” disappeared almost immediately after the Twitter purchase. Along with all of Musks supporters changing from “we need free speech”, to “Musk owns the platform, he can do what he wants.” Pre-Musk Twitter was more about free speech, except it was trying to fight bots, hate speech and disinformation.

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Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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What exactly is it about that article that leads you to label it as politically biased? I see nothing but apparently factual information without any commentary.

It's existence. A couple journalists broke a social media platform's rule on doxxing, and were temporarily suspended for it. This wouldn't meet the standard for notability if it occurred on any other platform.

Did they break the rules on doxxing, or did Musk just say they did?

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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The logical explanation to me is that most of the Signal contacts shared tend to be for drugs or CSAM trading, so they went for the nuclear approach to make moderation easier.

Give me a break, open telegram, which is still in the clear for comrade musk and he publicly advocated for comrade durov and tell me how long it will take you to find anything from prostitution to weapons, drugs and human trafficking. It's all about punishing people who can question musk & co's authoritarian desires.

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Remember the Arab Spring and how Twitter was hailed as a tool for the masses to fight against their oppressors? And remember how Elon bought Twitter, loudly proclaiming he was doing so to defend free speech? I'm mildly curious to see how X tries to justify this, but I suspect they've reached the stage where they don't even need to pretend to pay lip service to their notional values.

I mean, I think at this point everyone knows that, in this context, 'free speech' should be read as 'speech that Musk likes'.

(This is the case for most people who go on about 'free speech' a lot, really.)

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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This comment section has turned into something of a circle, it's cool to be mad nd all, but there was a comment expressing doubt at the details, wonder about a reason other than those stated, and asking if anyone independently verified, as I clicked it the comment was flagged to oblivion. No opportunity to engage with that viewpoint.

HN is always a mess when the subject contains Musk, Trump, Google, browsers or social media platforms in general. I don't mind the slight political aspects of things, but reading a ton of hate and "I already deleted X" (pun intended) and "Just use Y other platform" (that no normal user can figure out) comments is just uninteresting and should stay on Reddit or wherever these nonproductive comments fit into. I'd love…

You get to moderate up or down. Otherwise people say what they want.
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