US bill proposes jail time for people who download DeepSeek

Post by cscurmudgeon » Tue, Feb 04, 2025, 2:51 AM UTC

theossuary wrote: post #81

ToucanLoucan wrote: post #37

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Truly, what do you even do as the CCP or some other party that would like to spread anti-American propaganda? Literally just point to the actual, factual state of this country and tell me it isn't a rolling joke.

Thats how most propaganda works. Russia, for example, has been publicizing cases of extreme racism in the US for years to demoralize black people. [1] Hell this has been going on since WWII, when other countries saw how the US treated their black troops, and used it to damage loyalty. [2] Nothing works like the truth, if the US could just stop being so racist it'd be that much harder to divide us. It seems like that'…

Post by realreal89 » Tue, Feb 04, 2025, 2:52 AM UTC

tptacek wrote: post #73

This is performative and obviously stupid, but to add some technical color to it: in the alternate universe where this passed, rather than floating around as a signalling tool for Josh Hawley, ordinary violators would see nothing resembling a 20 year sentence. This statute falls under the 2M5 section of the sentencing guideline (for export violations); it has a base offense level of 14 (15-21 months) and is probation…

Post by jchw » Tue, Feb 04, 2025, 2:54 AM UTC

groggo wrote: post #183

blackeyeblitzar wrote: post #163

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Congress didn’t change its tune. PAFACA is supported by 80% of legislators. It has more support than virtually any other legislation.

I know it's stupid to get upset over an app like TikTok, but the ban really did shock me a little, even more so because of how widely supported it was. What party or politicians support individual freedom in this context? How could libertarians support banning an app?

Post by realreal89 » Tue, Feb 04, 2025, 2:55 AM UTC

mindslight wrote: post #172

throwaway173738 wrote: post #119

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We’ve gone beyond being able to damage their interests with protectionism. We’re only hurting ourselves by denying access to any Chinese innovation.

Exactly. Talk about closing the barn door after the horse ran out, started his own family, watched his foals grow up, sent them off to horse college, and watched them all settle down and start their own families in new barns that don't even have doors. Nonsensical stunts like this make me wonder if Hawley and company are also on the Chinese/Russian payroll and it's not just Trump/Musk. Is it too much to ask of my fel…

Post by mayneack » Tue, Feb 04, 2025, 2:57 AM UTC

theossuary wrote: post #81

ToucanLoucan wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Truly, what do you even do as the CCP or some other party that would like to spread anti-American propaganda? Literally just point to the actual, factual state of this country and tell me it isn't a rolling joke.

Thats how most propaganda works. Russia, for example, has been publicizing cases of extreme racism in the US for years to demoralize black people. [1] Hell this has been going on since WWII, when other countries saw how the US treated their black troops, and used it to damage loyalty. [2] Nothing works like the truth, if the US could just stop being so racist it'd be that much harder to divide us. It seems like that'…