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Add "fucking" to your Google searches to neutralize AI summaries

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Re: Add "fucking" to your Google searches to neutralize AI summaries

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wilg wrote: post #175
basscomm wrote: post #113

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> At this point I'm convinced that the endless AI hype and all the investment is purely due to hopes that it will soon put vast amounts of employees out of work It's this part. Salaries and benefits are expensive. A computer program doesn't need a salary, retirement benefits, insurance, retirement, doesn't call in sick, doesn't take vacations, works 24/7, etc.

It's interesting how we can frame "potentially automating tasks" in the most sinister conceivable way. The same argument applies to essentially all technology, like a computer.

It's not really interesting, it's exactly what should be expected. We've seen how corporations act, and their history and our prior experiences go on to shape our perceptions and expectations accordingly.

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Post by b112 »

gosub100 wrote: post #198
autoexec wrote: post #103

Every time some product or service introduces AI (or more accurately shoves it down our throats) people start looking for a way to get rid of it. It's so strange how much money and time companies are pouring into "features" that the public continues to reject at every opportunity. At this point I'm convinced that the endless AI hype and all the investment is purely due to hopes that it will soon put vast numbers of e…

I'll repeat my favorite quote about it (paraphrased and read it here first but don't recall the attribution): AI can copy a song, tell me a joke, predict what I buy, but I still have to do my own dishes. If AI (or any tech) could clean, do dishes, or cook (which is not a chore for many, I acknowledge that) it could potentially bring families together and improve the quality of peoples lives. Instead they are introduc…

2030 at the latest. LLM androids(robots).

Re: Add "fucking" to your Google searches to neutralize AI summaries

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Post by b112 »

morpheos137 wrote: post #161
autoexec wrote: post #103

Every time some product or service introduces AI (or more accurately shoves it down our throats) people start looking for a way to get rid of it. It's so strange how much money and time companies are pouring into "features" that the public continues to reject at every opportunity. At this point I'm convinced that the endless AI hype and all the investment is purely due to hopes that it will soon put vast numbers of e…

It's not strange. It's about power and control. Google and the other big names could care less about user satisfaction: their customers are the ad buyers. It's too bad because even 10 years ago Google and the internet in general were magical. You could find information on any topic, make connections and change your life. Now it is mostly santized dumbed down crap and the discovery of anything special is hidden under…

Almost makes me think curated TV will come back, even if all streamed. Real humans with reputations, and ensuring no fakery.

And a vast decline in youtube.

Re: Add "fucking" to your Google searches to neutralize AI summaries

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Post by b112 »

joshuaissac wrote: post #134
nixonpjoshua wrote: post #118

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I haven't had quotations work for me in search in years now, it's really sad how boolean operators have stopped working too. I find it particularly difficult to search for "non latex" products as adding quotes on the total term no longer works and I just get products full of latex. Also I can't use boolean search to find the product because it just ignores the "-" in front of the word and gives a ton of results that…

You can put Google Search into Verbatim mode (via Search tools) to make it respect quotation marks.

Sadly that is broken too, I find. I think it's doing some aliasing still, and other things.

Re: Add "fucking" to your Google searches to neutralize AI summaries

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Post by gosub100 »

b112 wrote: post #213
gosub100 wrote: post #198

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I'll repeat my favorite quote about it (paraphrased and read it here first but don't recall the attribution): AI can copy a song, tell me a joke, predict what I buy, but I still have to do my own dishes. If AI (or any tech) could clean, do dishes, or cook (which is not a chore for many, I acknowledge that) it could potentially bring families together and improve the quality of peoples lives. Instead they are introduc…

2030 at the latest. LLM androids(robots).

I would be fine with cheating and embedding magnets in the plates or having a special track that fits the plate to the sink. But I find it pathetic that this problem hasn't been solved yet. No one likes doing dishes.

Re: Add "fucking" to your Google searches to neutralize AI summaries

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Post by b112 »

gosub100 wrote: post #216
b112 wrote: post #213

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2030 at the latest. LLM androids(robots).

I would be fine with cheating and embedding magnets in the plates or having a special track that fits the plate to the sink. But I find it pathetic that this problem hasn't been solved yet. No one likes doing dishes.

Well, dishwashers are enough to remove lots of the work. And they can dry the dishes too.

So it's a lower bar, there's a partial solution.

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Post by autoexec »

quantified wrote: post #187
ryandrake wrote: post #163

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> people in a hurry Huh, I always thought it was the opposite: If you're in a hurry, you go through traditional check-out. Nothing really matches the speed of an experienced and trained grocery store checkout clerk whizzing boxes past the scanner faster than you can load them into your cart. I think traditional checkout can blaze through 30 grocery items before I can even get three or four out of my cart, fumble arou…

There are 4-12 self-checkout kiosks and the loads there tend to be smaller. So the line moves. Speed of checkout once you reach the clerk in a traditional lane, hands-down faster than self. Plus traditional is where you buy alcohol.

I've seen liquor stores that handle alcohol sales through self-checkout without friction. They don't check IDs 99% of the time, which I suspect could get them in some trouble, but instead the monitoring employee basically looks at you and makes a judgement call on your age and if you're clearly not a child they approve it before you're even done scanning.

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Post by DavidPiper »

autoexec wrote: post #199
IgorPartola wrote: post #171

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I am totally in the same boat but also I do suspect it is a minority. It’s the same way that some people really want open source bootloaders, but 99.99% of people do not care at all. Maybe AI assistants in random places just aren’t that compatible with people on HN but are possibly useful for a lot of people not on HN?

> It’s the same way that some people really want open source bootloaders, but 99.99% of people do not care at all. In fairness to the 99.99% they don't even know what a bootloader is and if they understood the situation and the risks many of them would also favor an open option. I don't think the rejection of AI is primarily a HN thing though. It's my non-tech friends and family who have been most vocal in complainin…

> In fairness to the 99.99% they don't even know what a bootloader is

True. And awareness and education is very important for useful discourse.

> if they understood the situation and the risks many of them would also favor an open option.

Raising my hand as one of those people who knows what a bootloader is and also doesn't currently care about an open option. Maybe at some time in the future I will again, but for now it is very far down on my list of concerns.

I suspect whether or not AI is useful/high-quality/"good"/etc is just not important to most poeple at the moment. If they are laid off from their jobs in the future and replaced with an AI, I suspect they'll start caring more.

But in the general case, I've found "caring ahead-of-time" (for want of a better phrase) is a very hard thing to encourage, despite the fact that it's one of the most effective things you can do if you direct it at the "right" avenues (i.e. those that will affect you directly in the future).

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