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More men are addicted to the 'crack cocaine' of the stock market

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Re: More men are addicted to the 'crack cocaine' of the stock market

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Most people have a gambler’s mindset about the stock market:

> […G]ambling in financial markets often goes undetected […] because individuals confuse their actions [i.e., speculating] with investing.

The typical person speculates on the market — buying low during their working years, and hopefully selling high during their retired years.

Re: More men are addicted to the 'crack cocaine' of the stock market

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The supposed "survey" or whatever the hell this is was taken from a bunch of amateur people who started trading out of boredom which depicts an entirely non-real picture of the people who have been doing this for a living since quite some time. Like with everything else, using your brain cells can quickly make you realize it's a lot more than "gambling"

There are plenty of people who are trading with a strategy. There are also oodles of people who are engaging with trading in precisely the same way that somebody engages with sports betting. And various platforms are using similar marketing and ux strategies as betting platforms to encourage this.

Re: More men are addicted to the 'crack cocaine' of the stock market

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Well I've heard people say this. What about the ones that regret it? I know of one personal acquaintance of mine who confided that he regrets having his kid. He would under normal social circumstances not mention it, for obvious reasons. The problem is that it's a one-way street if you decide to have a child. Now if only one had an option to 'trial-run-before-one-commits' that would be ideal. I suspect (but not sure)…

You can always give away the kid, the whole adoption industry is here to help. In some countries you can even sell your kids, but it is frowned upon in many Western societies. Finally, fostering is the trial run you are looking for.

Wish I had the rep to downvote a comment,

> you can always give away the kid

a child is not a goddamn pet or a commodity that you can just give away

> In some countries you can even sell your kids, but it is frowned upon in many Western societies

A common country where that happens is Pakistan/Afghanistan where young boys are sold to be prostitutes. I am GLAD it's frowned upon as it should be everywhere in the modern world.

> fostering is the trial run you are looking for

Again, children are not pets, fostering is the same as raising a biological child, if you're doing it any different and treating the child differently, in my opinion, it's tantamount to child abuse.

Frankly this comment lacks any humanity, and hopefully you choose not to have or foster children.

Re: More men are addicted to the 'crack cocaine' of the stock market

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At this point I’m just watching a slightly younger cohort of men repeat all of my worst digital addiction mistakes like getting inserted into the online video game -> toxic online behavior pipeline (or worse, fascism), ideologies (Musk), crypto and options gambling (thanks Reddit a la 2013 for all of the crypto communities and WSB) too much computer (ouch, my neck, arms and back.) I’m not doing particularly well, esp…

Are they also drinking tons of soda? I can’t believe how much I used to drink. I don’t touch any drink with sugar (other than lactose/latte) nowadays. It’s so disgusting, don’t know how I ever did it in the first place.

God my teeth wish i had just stopped drinking soda a decade ago. It wasnt even that hard to kick

Re: More men are addicted to the 'crack cocaine' of the stock market

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Child rearing is a possible solution—it is our evolutionary “purpose” to reproduce, after all, and most people in the developed world today aren’t doing it.

>Child rearing is a possible solution—it is our evolutionary “purpose” to reproduce, after all, and most people in the developed world today aren’t doing it. I doubt it, that's because to most people it does not feel purposeful, it's a chore. Most people who say it's purposeful are generally the most vocal ones, and I suspect the minority.

Chores are a great way to make you feel a sense of purpose. You can directly observe the fruits of your labor. Your kitchen is shinier after a deep clean. Your baby is no longer crying of hunger after a feeding. The same can't be said for scrolling through TikTok for hours or even a lot of employment. Sure your livelihood may depend on moving items from big boxes into little boxes, but it's hard to feel any sort of accomplishment for that.

Re: More men are addicted to the 'crack cocaine' of the stock market

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post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Child rearing is a possible solution—it is our evolutionary “purpose” to reproduce, after all, and most people in the developed world today aren’t doing it.

>Child rearing is a possible solution—it is our evolutionary “purpose” to reproduce, after all, and most people in the developed world today aren’t doing it. I doubt it, that's because to most people it does not feel purposeful, it's a chore. Most people who say it's purposeful are generally the most vocal ones, and I suspect the minority.

Dogs are a chore. Cats too. Oh well.

Re: More men are addicted to the 'crack cocaine' of the stock market

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The supposed "survey" or whatever the hell this is was taken from a bunch of amateur people who started trading out of boredom which depicts an entirely non-real picture of the people who have been doing this for a living since quite some time. Like with everything else, using your brain cells can quickly make you realize it's a lot more than "gambling"

> Like with everything else, using your brain cells can quickly make you realize it's a lot more than "gambling" Which sounds similar to how gambling addicts report their thoughts on their addiction - that they are smart enough to learn poker, or they know enough basketball to be able to predict outcomes. Like with everything else, some research and data interpretation shows that with the remarkable exception of two…

This comment should not be greyed out. See the Buffett Bet [1] for the most famous example of this.

Warren Buffet bet a million against Ted Seides (head of Protege at the time) that a simple index fund investment would outperform any handpicked selection of hedge funds over a decade. And critically this bet was made in 2008 just before the market crashed! That's when hedge funds should disproportionately shine, as per their name, by hedging. In the end it wasn't even close.

[1] - https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/030916/buffe...

Re: More men are addicted to the 'crack cocaine' of the stock market

#218

At one point I knew I could beat the market with l33t software skills. I was wrong and only realized it after donating about 3k to Wall Street.

I've taken comfort in the thought that there are millions of people much more clever than me. If they have not figured out how to game the market there's no chance I will.

So I don't even try.

Re: More men are addicted to the 'crack cocaine' of the stock market

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What’s old is new again. If you worked in a tech office in the late 90’s, every other guy had Ameritrade or similar up in a window. It was the gaming/porn you could get away with at work. Dot com roasted them all.

There are structural changes that make it much easier to convert trading into gambling. Feeless trades and easy access to margin accounts and more advanced vehicles means that you can easily make dozens of high risk trades in a single day.

Re: More men are addicted to the 'crack cocaine' of the stock market

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I have net managed to beat the market. My estimate is that I've earned approximately $3/hour for the time I've spent doing so. And I was trading in such thinly traded options that it wasn't a matter of "scaling up" - I was literally only able to make money because I was picking up the pennies nobody else cared about. (And/or trading on events that were were rare, obvious, and in an area I understood, which also doesn…

Folks have an unhealthy mentality about beating the market, imo. You don’t need to beat the market if you’re not a fund manager trying to advertise your record. You just need to do well. The market is up 27% YTD. Most global trends suggest, to me, a greater centralization of wealth into the US. Just dumping everything into the SP500 is likely more than great for 99% of people for the near future.

You are correct. You just need to beat inflation. (So 27% vs. 2.7%? Pretty sure anyone can be a Wall Street wolf these days.)
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