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Solaar is a Linux manager for many Logitech keyboards, mice, and other devices

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Re: Solaar is a Linux manager for many Logitech keyboards, mice, and other devices

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Logitech G mice dont need the app, but regular ones do. My Mx master 3s and Mx ergo reset to the default sensitivity and button functions if I leave them alone for a while.

That's interesting, thanks for the information. I don't use any apps with my M705s (yes, I have a couple). The user I was replying to was giving examples of mice which are in the same class with Logitech G series, this is why I directly quoted my experience with G700.

>reset to the default sensitivity and button functions if I leave them alone for a while.

I need to try that. Mine is USB wired with no battery.

I've got one of the lesser G USB 6-button "gaming" RGBs that was unused for well over a year. Never did try any Logi Windows apps or do any gaming either. Used as a mild-mannered office mouse instead :)

A while back I started using it again, this time on a Linux PC and it still glowed with the default pattern which I had never changed. Fine by me.

Then started dual booting Windows 11 and all was well until I connected to the internet, the Logitech firmware on the mouse got autoupdated, and lights out :(

Still glows during POST but LEDs go out unless Windows kicks it back on in some way or another.

You want it to do what it once was doing without an app? Your Windows 11 may already be updated far enough itself to give RGB control now.

Otherwise you can use the Logitech app.

Which doesn't have a Linux version.

Looks like mine needs a background app of some kind now if I want glowing again. Oh well.

Still looking forward to trying Solaar when I get back to that particular desktop :)

Re: Solaar is a Linux manager for many Logitech keyboards, mice, and other devices

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Does anyone know of a good program to help tweak the mx ergo on linux? I have some xinput tweaks, but I feel I am leaving much on the table - probably by not really understanding xinput. It is also soooo much more comfortable to use the trackball on my mac where I have the Logitech software installed.

Re: Solaar is a Linux manager for many Logitech keyboards, mice, and other devices

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One thing I'm kind of surprised by is that the custom mouse space is so empty, compared to custom keyboard scene. I would like to have some custom micro controller/ZMK based mouse that I can pair with say my wireless split keyboard. Logitech has OK hardware but they don't have basic functionality like sync switching between devices - this would easily be handled by OSS firmware.

I've wanted the same for a while. I think there are two main restrictions:

- Mouse bodies are harder to make, since they generally have more complex curves compared to a flat keyboard. 3d printing helps a lot, but you don't get the same durability or quality as injection molding

- Mouse sensors are strangely hard to find. The "good" sensors on a lot of the high-end mice are difficult to find as individual components. From a quick look at what custom mice exist, they'll often cannibalize an existing mouse for components rather than order things from say DigiKey, like you can for keyboard components

Re: Solaar is a Linux manager for many Logitech keyboards, mice, and other devices

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Sorry, it’s absolutely sarcastic. I thought I wasn’t able to couple my MX Keys to the Bolt dongle and the MX Master 3S to the “Unifying” dongle because I needed Windows (but no, it’s by design!). So I grab my wife’s laptop, install that Logitech garbage and it greets me with an AI prompt builder. I was like that Picard Gif, squared. Unbelievable.

It seemed so ridiculous that I thought it must be sarcastic but you never know with how rabid AI people are. Absolutely insane that they included that in the official software!

Yeah, I mean what is the thought process here?

- Lets build a plug-in that can put an AI prompt builder under a mouse button!

- But nobody would download and use it!

- You're right, lets force-feed it through our main app!

Re: Solaar is a Linux manager for many Logitech keyboards, mice, and other devices

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If you can find mechanical switches you like that is your best option. Lacking that, nothing stops you from ripping out the electronics and putting in the controller from a mechanical keyboard. It would be a lot of work to trace the circuit board and figure out where to jump in (and what to cut out), but any mechanical keyboard controller should work (QMK seems to be the most popular today)

Razer and Cherry both have low profile switches, apparently Kailh are also low profile.

You seem to not have read/understood OP's problems. He stated mechanical switches are not what he wants. Now if you can suggest switches with a membrane feel that would be helpful - I'm not aware of any but I don't know everything.

Re: Solaar is a Linux manager for many Logitech keyboards, mice, and other devices

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Logitech G mice dont need the app, but regular ones do. My Mx master 3s and Mx ergo reset to the default sensitivity and button functions if I leave them alone for a while.

That's interesting, thanks for the information. I don't use any apps with my M705s (yes, I have a couple). The user I was replying to was giving examples of mice which are in the same class with Logitech G series, this is why I directly quoted my experience with G700.

for Logitech G there is the Onboard Memory Manager, a portable tool to just set up the onboard profiles. Since they released it I've not had to use their normal software anymore: https://support.logi.com/hc/en-ca/articles/360059641133-Onbo...

Re: Solaar is a Linux manager for many Logitech keyboards, mice, and other devices

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Logitech's might be a large download, but their Windows software still seems far more optimized than Corsair's. After a few days of uptime, Corsair's processes would have nearly an hour of CPU time. Logitech's would have a couple minutes at most. I replaced all my Corsair equipment with Logitech or others after seeing that.

Why does a mouse need an app, again?

So your mouse driver can have AI in it, apparently. https://www.logitech.com/en-us/software/logi-ai-prompt-build...

Re: Solaar is a Linux manager for many Logitech keyboards, mice, and other devices

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And yet, my keyboard can do almost (no per-program switching) all of the same FROM A WEB PAGE. WebHID should be all that's needed for advanced input devices. If you want some sort of per-program profile switching, sure, release a dedicated app that handles sending a special HID command sequence to trigger a profile switch.

And if Logitech had a webpage to configure settings, HN would be up in arms about not being able to configure while offline.

If the webpage was required to be connected back to Logitech to function, yeah, deservedly so. If, like Via, it can run fully offline then all you'd need is to save the page for offline use and that would be acceptable.

Re: Solaar is a Linux manager for many Logitech keyboards, mice, and other devices

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This saved my butt when I lost my mouse dongle and only had an Ubuntu instance available at the time. I was able to pair my mouse to the same dongle my keyboard used and have been using the software ever since without issue. Thank you!

If you ever need to do this in future, Logitech have a web only tool that uses web serial to pair the receiver.

Re: Solaar is a Linux manager for many Logitech keyboards, mice, and other devices

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You're assuming most of that space is taken up by telemetry software. 100MB of that could easily just be the UI toolkit!

iirc they shipped an electron app the last time I used it on Windows. The 150 MB are likely just 30% Chrome, 40% graphics (their UI is fancy and has images of connected components) and, 10% bundled js code.

Last time I looked at Corsair they had a DLL for each device, it added up.
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