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Re: 1-800-ChatGPT

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Post by tracerbulletx »

tehwebguy wrote: post #204
tracerbulletx wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In every post about LLMs there is someone to blindly say something like this. When in reality if you ask ChatGPT for 10 good movies from this year you will get this. Anora - Directed by Sean Baker, a compelling drama about the life of a sex worker in Coney Island. Challengers - A provocative tennis drama directed by Luca Guadagnino, starring Zendaya. Dune: Part Two - Denis Villeneuve's continuation of the epic scienc…

These details are already available in the in flight entertainment interface

This type of response is called moving the goal post. When someone responds to one claim, the claim is changed to something different which was not part of the original argument. This is debating in bad faith.

Re: 1-800-ChatGPT

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Post by slg »

bsimpson wrote: post #185
Alupis wrote: post #172

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I would expect nothing but hallucinations and nonsense coming out of any LLM regarding recently-released movies (aka. the ones you often find on flights).

Here's a comparison of asking ChatGPT and Meta AI about actual in-flight movie choices. I pasted the same initial prompts in both, but Meta AI needed more clarification. When ChatGPT found multiple entries with similar titles, it gave information about all of them. https://gist.github.com/appsforartists/004bafe11a9e23a418fd5...

>[The Campaign] received mixed-to-positive reviews from critics. On the Rotten Tomatoes website, it holds a 65% approval rating from critics, based on 191 reviews, with an audience score of 60%.

The first thing I fact-checked, the Rotten Tomatoes scores are actually 66% and 51% respectively[1]. Probably not enough of a difference to sway any opinions, but an excellent example of the type of inaccuracy that the previous comment was referencing.

[1] - https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_campaign

Re: 1-800-ChatGPT

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Post by tracerbulletx »

th0ma5 wrote: post #209
tracerbulletx wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In every post about LLMs there is someone to blindly say something like this. When in reality if you ask ChatGPT for 10 good movies from this year you will get this. Anora - Directed by Sean Baker, a compelling drama about the life of a sex worker in Coney Island. Challengers - A provocative tennis drama directed by Luca Guadagnino, starring Zendaya. Dune: Part Two - Denis Villeneuve's continuation of the epic scienc…

Great! Now show me a system that can verify that list for accuracy as well. Not to be flippant, but this is the complaint. You can't approach outputs uncritically. And no I don't want it to be as unreliable as a person who also forgets how English or basic knowledge works at random intervals.

The system is I'm a movie nerd who knows all the best movies of the year and have seen them all.

Re: 1-800-ChatGPT

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Post by joshdavham »

corentin88 wrote: post #202

OpenAI is diversifying a lot, and I’m not sure that’s a good thing. It’s great to ship fast. But you need to maintain things as well. And that requires even more time and engineers and money in the end. There’ll definitely be projects within OpenAI that will be shutdown in a few months, just because it hasn’t caught and/or engineers want to work on something new. That’s how Google worked in the 2000s - shipping new t…

> OpenAI is diversifying a lot, and I’m not sure that’s a good thing.

I'm not sure if I'd use term 'diversifying'. At least not in the sense of spreading themselves wider across more projects to reduce overall company risk (if that's what you meant).

I think that we're still very early into AI and because we're still not sure what kind of applications people will want to use in the future, it makes a lot of sense to experiment.

Re: 1-800-ChatGPT

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Post by frakt0x90 »

bsimpson wrote: post #168

On coast to coast flights, there's often not a good way of knowing what movies are available until after you've left cell coverage. This makes simple research like checking the IMDb score challenging. Alaska Air has a whitelist of messaging services that you can use for free during the flight. WhatsApp is on that list. So if you want to research obscure plane movies on an Alaska flight, you can connect to their wifi…

I get it's just an example, but are we really this far gone? Just watch a random movie and if you don't like it, pick another. This is such an extreme micro-optimization of a small experience.

Re: 1-800-ChatGPT

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Post by Sean-Der »

zekrioca wrote: post #201
Sean-Der wrote: post #178

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No teleprompters! We had a video monitor in front of us showing the live feed, that kept distracting me personally.

Oops :) I meant no disrespect, but from 2' or so, the conversation sounded more natural and things got smooth. Interest feature and I liked the 80's banner with the phone # like in the old TV ads!

Thank you! I didn't feel any disrespect :)

I was always curious how things worked when I saw announcements on HN. So happy to share to satiate the next generations curiosity :)

Re: 1-800-ChatGPT

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Post by [deleted] »

tracerbulletx wrote: post #211
tehwebguy wrote: post #204

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These details are already available in the in flight entertainment interface

This type of response is called moving the goal post. When someone responds to one claim, the claim is changed to something different which was not part of the original argument. This is debating in bad faith.

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Re: 1-800-ChatGPT

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Post by glenstein »

slg wrote: post #205
tracerbulletx wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In every post about LLMs there is someone to blindly say something like this. When in reality if you ask ChatGPT for 10 good movies from this year you will get this. Anora - Directed by Sean Baker, a compelling drama about the life of a sex worker in Coney Island. Challengers - A provocative tennis drama directed by Luca Guadagnino, starring Zendaya. Dune: Part Two - Denis Villeneuve's continuation of the epic scienc…

Those descriptions are less detailed than the information you will see on basically any streaming interface and yet it still manages to not being very good. For example, no person who had actually seen Anora would describe it as "a compelling drama about the life of a sex worker in Coney Island".

I haven't seen Anora so I'll give you that one, but you cited that as if it was just one of many examples, when in fact I think it's the only one, as all the other descriptions seem reasonable.

Originally the problem was supposedly that it would hallucinate complete and utter gibberish, but now here we are quibbling over one example and insisting that maybe it's not quite as good as alternative descriptions.

The gap between what was produced and what you're looking for is small enough that I think it could be covered with some slightly tweaked prompt instructions.

I'm not saying you're wrong but want to note how the goalposts keep seeming to shift whenever we talk about these capabilities.

Re: 1-800-ChatGPT

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Post by [deleted] »

Alupis wrote: post #172
bsimpson wrote: post #168

On coast to coast flights, there's often not a good way of knowing what movies are available until after you've left cell coverage. This makes simple research like checking the IMDb score challenging. Alaska Air has a whitelist of messaging services that you can use for free during the flight. WhatsApp is on that list. So if you want to research obscure plane movies on an Alaska flight, you can connect to their wifi…

I would expect nothing but hallucinations and nonsense coming out of any LLM regarding recently-released movies (aka. the ones you often find on flights).

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