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Veo 2: Our video generation model

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Re: Veo 2: Our video generation model

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Post by dtquad »

0xcb0 wrote: post #206

Imho is stunning, yet what is happening there is super dangerous. These videos will and may be too realistic. Our society is not prepared for this kind of reality "bending" media. These hyperrealistic videos will be the reason for hate and murder. Evil actors will use it to influence elections on a global scale. Create cults around virtual characters. Deny the rules of physics and human reason. And yet, there is no w…

Instead of calling for regulations, the big tech companies should run big campaigns educating the public, especially boomers, that they no longer can trust images, videos, and audio on the Internet. Put paid articles and ads about this in local newspapers around the world so even the least online people gets educated about this.

Re: Veo 2: Our video generation model

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Post by lexandstuff »

dheera wrote: post #65
bangaladore wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does everyone have "legal" access to YouTube. In theory that should matter to something like Open(Closed)Ai. But who knows.

I mean, I have trained myself on Youtube. Why can't a silicon being train itself on Youtube as well?

The difference is that you didn't need to scrape millions of videos from YouTube with residential proxy network scrapers to train yourself.

Re: Veo 2: Our video generation model

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Post by Miraltar »

yoavm wrote: post #133
stabbles wrote: post #121

It's interesting they host these videos on YouTube, cause it signals they're fine with AI generated content. I wonder if Google forgets that the creators themselves are what makes YouTube interesting for viewers.

What makes you think that viewers wouldn't be watching AI generated content? Considering the possibilities of fake videos, I'm sure that it can be very engaging. And the costs are zero.

Search youtube for stoicism, you'll find an overwhelming amount of generated content. And a lot of other niche subjects have been colonized like that.

Re: Veo 2: Our video generation model

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Post by jillyboel »

simonw wrote: post #131

I got access to the preview, here's what it gave me for "A pelican riding a bicycle along a coastal path overlooking a harbor" - this video has all four versions shown: https://static.simonwillison.net/static/2024/pelicans-on-bic... Of the four two were a pelican riding a bicycle. One was a pelican just running along the road, one was a pelican perched on a stationary bicycle, and one had the pelican wearing a weird…

This tech is cute but the only viable outcomes are going to be porn and mass produced slop that'll be uninteresting before it's even created. Why even bother?

Re: Veo 2: Our video generation model

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Post by Retr0id »

ddalex wrote: post #210
0xcb0 wrote: post #206

Imho is stunning, yet what is happening there is super dangerous. These videos will and may be too realistic. Our society is not prepared for this kind of reality "bending" media. These hyperrealistic videos will be the reason for hate and murder. Evil actors will use it to influence elections on a global scale. Create cults around virtual characters. Deny the rules of physics and human reason. And yet, there is no w…

The society voted with their money. Google refrained from launching their early chatbots and image generation tools due to perceived risks of unsafe and misleading content being generated, and got beaten to the punch in the market. Of course now they'll launch early and often, the market has spoken.

We have constructed a society where market forces feel inevitable, but it doesn't have to be that way.

Re: Veo 2: Our video generation model

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Post by Retr0id »

dtquad wrote: post #211
0xcb0 wrote: post #206

Imho is stunning, yet what is happening there is super dangerous. These videos will and may be too realistic. Our society is not prepared for this kind of reality "bending" media. These hyperrealistic videos will be the reason for hate and murder. Evil actors will use it to influence elections on a global scale. Create cults around virtual characters. Deny the rules of physics and human reason. And yet, there is no w…

Instead of calling for regulations, the big tech companies should run big campaigns educating the public, especially boomers, that they no longer can trust images, videos, and audio on the Internet. Put paid articles and ads about this in local newspapers around the world so even the least online people gets educated about this.

What would motivate "big tech" to warn people about their own products, if not regulations?

Re: Veo 2: Our video generation model

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Post by Kelteseth »

forgingahead wrote: post #165
throw4321 wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What officials actually say doesn't make a difference anymore. People do not get bamboozled because of lack of facts. People who get bamboozled are past facts.

Off topic from the video AI thread, but to elaborate on your point: people believe what they want, based on what they have been primed to believe from mass media. This is mainly the normal TV and paper news, filtered through institutions like government proclamations, schools, and now supercharged by social media. This is why the "narrative" exists, and news media does the consensus messaging of what you should belie…

> and why they hate X and other freer media sources

I left X precisely because it was flooded with Russian propaganda/misinformation.

Re: Veo 2: Our video generation model

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Post by AgentME »

simonw wrote: post #131

I got access to the preview, here's what it gave me for "A pelican riding a bicycle along a coastal path overlooking a harbor" - this video has all four versions shown: https://static.simonwillison.net/static/2024/pelicans-on-bic... Of the four two were a pelican riding a bicycle. One was a pelican just running along the road, one was a pelican perched on a stationary bicycle, and one had the pelican wearing a weird…

It's funny having looked forward to Sora for a while and then seeing it be superseded so shortly after access to it is finally made public.

Re: Veo 2: Our video generation model

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Post by ddalex »

Retr0id wrote: post #216
ddalex wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The society voted with their money. Google refrained from launching their early chatbots and image generation tools due to perceived risks of unsafe and misleading content being generated, and got beaten to the punch in the market. Of course now they'll launch early and often, the market has spoken.

We have constructed a society where market forces feel inevitable, but it doesn't have to be that way.

Of course; but this is the current society, and attempts to reform it, e.g. communism, failed abjectly, so by evolution pressure, the capitalist society dominated by market forces is the best that we have
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