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Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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Eric Adams doesn't have a strong reality filter, and it's usually good to cross-check things he says, especially if he's the only person saying them. I don't think he consciously makes things up, he just tends to gravitate towards saying things that sound good in the moment. Or, if we're being really charitable, they were chasing the wrong guy.

All you did was make the phrase "makes things up" more palatable. It still means the same thing. He lies.

> He lies.

He's a cop turned politician.. cows moo, crocodiles chomp, and these critters lie. It's their nature.

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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Exactly my thoughts as well. Every piece of evidence law enforcement has was basically intentionally provided by him. If he just stuffed his trash in one of his 7 pockets, or wore a pair of sunglasses, or didn't actually stare straight at the camera in the taxi like he was getting his school picture taken? I mean pretty much the only thing he failed to do was leave his business card at the crime scene.

I guess the next one can learn from this one and they will iteratively get better at not getting caught.

In the movie "Wag the Dog", Dustin Hoffman plays a Hollywood producer who is hired by the President to create a fake war to take attention away from another scandal. Spoiler alert Near the end, Hoffman's character is upset that the President's re-election is credited to something else instead of his handiwork. Even when told he's risking his life if he says anything, he yells "I want the credit!". I think a similar psychology may be at work in this and other crimes that become (in)famous.

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With programmers, hackers, computer scientists, systems designers/engineers carrying some of the most privileged skillsets needed for designing and implementing replacements to systems of oppression (and disruptions to said systems), I've been wondering where the ones working to do this can be found. I learned in Computer Ethics 101 about how the history of the development of radiological machines led to the realizat…

This is the main reason I built https://chitchatter.im/ . I hope to see it be used as a tool to safely organize around building a better world.

Thanks for this! Gonna ask around for help in evaluating it for security.

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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More or less lays out his motive right there. I disagree with his thoughts on violence. When you try to solve a problem by inviting violence to dinner you'll find you have a guest you are unable to excuse.

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>The USA re-elected the man which basically encouraged the January 6th insurrection and has been suggesting vengeance for a long time now.

On top of that, he's going to pardon everyone convicted for that insurrection, and wants to attack the Jan 6 committee somehow.

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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I'm weirdly not too surprised due to this belief I have that software developers would make effective criminals. A lot of this boils down to a belief I have that not getting caught in the first place is easy. Murders have something like a 50% solve rate and you can decrease your chances of getting caught with a little knowledge on how to evade common forensic techniques along with some planning. Those who get caught…

Murder is a really interesting crime. There are really two kinds of murder: those where the perpetrator and victim are known to each other and those where they are not. The first category is way more common [1]:

> Among homicides in which the relationship could be determined, between 21% and 27% of homicides were committed by strangers and between 73% and 79% were committed by offenders known to the victims

Another data point is that the recidivism rate for murder is incredibly low, roughly 2% [2], among the lowest of any crime.

The point is that the vast majority of murders are personal in nature. Police will tell you that when someone dies, it's always the spouse or boyfriend or girlfriend as the prime suspect until it isn't. Murders with no personal relationship (eg serial killings) are quite rare.

So if you, as a software developer, want to get away with murder you first have to be irrational and/or insane enough to murder people for pretty much no reason, which will get you pretty far to not getting caught, but still want to murder people you really have no reason to.

You can further increase your odds of not getting caught by not leaving a crime scene or a body but also picking a victim who won't necessarily be missed. It's why serial killers end up preying on runaways and prostitutes. There's also the MMIW phenomenon [3]. Lastly, going outside your geographical area would further help your odds.

This suspect allegedly had no relationship to the victim but they still had a reason (it seems). Now it so happens that being upset about private health insurance quite literally would leave police with millions of suspects. But the point is, they weren't necessarily acting rationally even if it was premeditated and planned.

I still find it insane that the suspect didn't rid himself of every identifiable possession. Had they done that, I think they'd have a shot at acquittal (depending on DNA evidence from the water bottle and/or coffee cup). Now? Almost impossible.

As much as we talk about jury nullification, people like there to be something to hang their hat on in terms of doubt. If a blurry partial photo was the only evidence I could see that as being way more likely. Having the ID used in the hostel and the mask, bag and clothes as well as the gun makes that harder to justify.

[1]: https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/vvcs9310.pdf

[2]: https://www.sentencingproject.org/reports/a-new-lease-on-lif...

[3]: https://www.nativehope.org/missing-and-murdered-indigenous-w...

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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My take is that this is on a separate Ruby Ridge/anarchist axis. Hostile toward authority, they believe government (i.e. both political parties) and power structures are inherently corrupt. These beliefs have little to do with Democrat or Republican politics, but happen to align more with the right on a few issues (like gun control).

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Final sentence is telling (among others): "Violence never solved anything" is a statement uttered by cowards and predators. Although I'm not sure what "predators" means here. Don't predators use violence?

My guess is he was referring to financial predators. Greed and lust rather than wrath.

No, he's saying that predators tell their prey not to fight back.

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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More or less lays out his motive right there. I disagree with his thoughts on violence. When you try to solve a problem by inviting violence to dinner you'll find you have a guest you are unable to excuse.

Part of the reason we established courts was to avoid angry mobs dispensing justice, but we've let the courts become captured to a large extent. If you don't allow folks to seek justice in the courtroom, they'll inevitably return to "the jungle" so to speak. It's our job as participants in society to do our best to avoid that, but we have to make changes. We can't be idle and wring our hands saying "it can't be helpe…

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