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Re: "Hetzner decided to cancel our account and terminate all servers"

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Post by Terr_ »

sidewndr46 wrote: post #158
diggan wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another great question is "When did you last try to restore from a backup?" which usually is answered with "It's the built-in tooling, why would we assume it's broken?" or similar. Then fast-forward some months/years, and they try to restore from backups only to realize the backups never actually backed up what they cared about.

my dad told me about this customer that had a server that made automatic backups each Sunday night. The backup script would backup all the data then eject the tape so the manager could put it in the vault and rotate in the other one from the vault. When the hard drive failed, they restored the customer to the latest backup. Which was the tape still sitting in the tape drive in the server. It was from the first Sunday…

I'm confused, it sounds like you're saying the same tape was being ejected every week and then reinserted without any rotation. But in that case, shouldn't the weekly backup process have failed because the tape was full? Was nobody getting those alerts?

Or do you mean the backup process was fine, but they restored from the wrong media, a very old tape that was about to be overwritten, instead of retrieving the one with last-week's copy?

Re: "Hetzner decided to cancel our account and terminate all servers"

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Post by arresin »

amyames wrote: post #120

For anyone else who needs to hear this, Hi, I don’t have a mastodon to reply directly to you. But i have had some issues with content being taken down by VPS providers as well. What I’ve found works well is to use a VPS provider that the public is unaware of. And for some time I had used OVH based on the unlimited bandwidth and the reasoning that Wikipedia and Julian assange (who have far more enemies than I ever wil…

Interesting but wouldn’t that introduce a lot of latency?

Re: "Hetzner decided to cancel our account and terminate all servers"

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Post by josephcsible »

hk__2 wrote: post #3

This thread is not really interesting because we don’t have the Hetzner’s side of the story.

My rule of thumb is "if you had the opportunity to tell your side of the story but chose not to, then I'm going to accept the other party's side of the story as gospel".

Re: "Hetzner decided to cancel our account and terminate all servers"

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Post by buran77 »

r3trohack3r wrote: post #210

After their experience with targeted "deplatforming" rumble started its own cloud: https://www.rumble.cloud/

And their T&C have the same termination clause as anyone else.

> 6. Termination

> The Provider may terminate this Agreement at any time, for any reason, with or without notice to the Adopter. Adopter may terminate the Services upon notice to the Provider.

Re: "Hetzner decided to cancel our account and terminate all servers"

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Post by ender341341 »

Terr_ wrote: post #211
sidewndr46 wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

my dad told me about this customer that had a server that made automatic backups each Sunday night. The backup script would backup all the data then eject the tape so the manager could put it in the vault and rotate in the other one from the vault. When the hard drive failed, they restored the customer to the latest backup. Which was the tape still sitting in the tape drive in the server. It was from the first Sunday…

I'm confused, it sounds like you're saying the same tape was being ejected every week and then reinserted without any rotation. But in that case, shouldn't the weekly backup process have failed because the tape was full? Was nobody getting those alerts? Or do you mean the backup process was fine, but they restored from the wrong media, a very old tape that was about to be overwritten, instead of retrieving the one wi…

I read it as they were saying the manual part of the process never happened, so the backup from the first week was just sitting ejected forever and they had no alarming to notify them that the new backup failed to write to tape.

Re: "Hetzner decided to cancel our account and terminate all servers"

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Post by sidewndr46 »

Terr_ wrote: post #211
sidewndr46 wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

my dad told me about this customer that had a server that made automatic backups each Sunday night. The backup script would backup all the data then eject the tape so the manager could put it in the vault and rotate in the other one from the vault. When the hard drive failed, they restored the customer to the latest backup. Which was the tape still sitting in the tape drive in the server. It was from the first Sunday…

I'm confused, it sounds like you're saying the same tape was being ejected every week and then reinserted without any rotation. But in that case, shouldn't the weekly backup process have failed because the tape was full? Was nobody getting those alerts? Or do you mean the backup process was fine, but they restored from the wrong media, a very old tape that was about to be overwritten, instead of retrieving the one wi…

no, the first Sunday night after the backup process completed. It ejected the tape. It sat there for years until someone realized they needed to restore from the most recent backup. Since a new tape was never inserted, the backup was from years ago.

Re: "Hetzner decided to cancel our account and terminate all servers"

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Post by [deleted] »

Terr_ wrote: post #211
sidewndr46 wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

my dad told me about this customer that had a server that made automatic backups each Sunday night. The backup script would backup all the data then eject the tape so the manager could put it in the vault and rotate in the other one from the vault. When the hard drive failed, they restored the customer to the latest backup. Which was the tape still sitting in the tape drive in the server. It was from the first Sunday…

I'm confused, it sounds like you're saying the same tape was being ejected every week and then reinserted without any rotation. But in that case, shouldn't the weekly backup process have failed because the tape was full? Was nobody getting those alerts? Or do you mean the backup process was fine, but they restored from the wrong media, a very old tape that was about to be overwritten, instead of retrieving the one wi…

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Re: "Hetzner decided to cancel our account and terminate all servers"

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Post by egorfine »

gosub100 wrote: post #187
egorfine wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their ToS forbids not just the crypto mining (that was extremely reasonable to ban ten years ago, but it's moot today) but also some arbitrary financial technologies they don't like. So beware of their ToS.

> but it's moot today I disagree. It's not just the nuisance of wasted clock cycles. It also makes the network a juicy target for hackers. To anyone about to reply "you don't think people hack them now?", how do you think the correlation of attack sophistication and frequency looks for a network with/without a bunch of FREE MONEY inside? :)

It's moot because it makes no sense to mine on CPU or even on an entry level GPU that Hetzner did provide at one point. You will make a couple of $/m.

Besides, no mainstream crypto is mined anymore except Bitcoin.

So moot.

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