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Re: Bitcoin is over $100k

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post #152

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I have an interest in having the price of my house double every four years but I can't just wish that into reality and neither can miners.

How much work have you put into having the value of your house double every four years? How many people are invested in your house appreciating like that? If your house appreciates, do a bunch of bankers and hedge funds also get rich along the way? How many politicians have you taken to lunch and on ski trips with the proceeds from the last time you sold half of your house when the price doubled?

Fuck, when you put it this way, I shouldn't have sold at $20k.

Re: Bitcoin is over $100k

#212

I remember when people used to first talk about Bitcoin on HN back in early 2011 or so. The price was only $2 then. Congrats to anyone who had some and held onto it this long - personally I sold off mine in 2015 (big mistake in hindsight).

from $5 in 2011 to $500 was a 100x return, and still 200x too early, crazy

Re: Bitcoin is over $100k

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post #61
post #45

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>Bitcoin's price is simply another symptom of this. Bitcoin is not the symptom, Bitcoin is the answer. People are not longing Bitcoin, people are exiting the dollar, the euro, the yuan...

Yet the dollar is at record highs, and commodities are at record highs, and the stock market is at record highs, and real estate is at record highs, and Bitcoin is at record highs. So who is hedging what exactly?

> Yet the dollar is at record highs

The SingleFamilyHome/USD pair begs to differ

Re: Bitcoin is over $100k

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post #36

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Bitcoin is a store of value. Nothing more or less. DAOs and NFTs were just distractions trying to ride the wave. The fundamentals remain strong. It really hasn't changed much in 15 years. The Hacker News comments certainly haven't either. Salty as ever.

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Case in point, you just replied with the most salty comment ever.

Re: Bitcoin is over $100k

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post #36

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Bitcoin is a store of value. Nothing more or less. DAOs and NFTs were just distractions trying to ride the wave. The fundamentals remain strong. It really hasn't changed much in 15 years. The Hacker News comments certainly haven't either. Salty as ever.

Bitcoin is actually just a bunch of numbers. Whatever value you think you're storing with it is always denominated in fiat which is very ironic.

All of our assets are denominated with depreciating dollars. It’s nice because our assets always look like they’re going up. Of course a big part of that is just the dollar going down.

Re: Bitcoin is over $100k

#216

I couldn’t care less about crypto, but just for fun I bought 1 BTC in 2016. Still own it, and likely will never sell, but boy I wish I bought a lot more instead of my index funds, skipping one monthly contribution in VTI back then would have mostly set me up for life instead of just having a nice but inconsequential $100k bonus in my portfolio :-) Congrats to the people who held through thick and thin, I speculate (m…

> inconsequential $100k bonus in my portfolio

It seems we are truly ducking poor here in the EU. My parents have been running a farm for 40 years in the Netherlands and they’re doing well financially. Still, $100k is not inconsequential for them!

Re: Bitcoin is over $100k

#217

I just don't understand why you'd choose Bitcoin over gold. Gold, like Bitcoin, was criticized for just being a stupid store of value, but that wasn't completely true as it undoubtedly had some utility in the economy. Worst case comes and the market crashes, you know there's at least someone somewhere buying. What does Bitcoin get you over gold? The same "it's scarce and therefore valuable" narrative so you can store…

But how much of the price of gold is its intrinsic worth? A fake gold ring made of some alloy can look and feel almost exactly the same as a real one, but as soon as you find out that it isn't real gold it suddenly loses 99% of its value - maybe it's not magnetic or it is slightly the wrong shade, but the value of gold isn't assigned for not reacting to magnets. Only 11% of gold is for industrial purposes, so I think…

> its intrinsic worth

There is no such thing as "instrinsic worth".

There's only supply and demand.

Why there is demand for a certain good is a many-colored and complicated affair.

Re: Bitcoin is over $100k

#218
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bitcoin is a store of value. Nothing more or less. DAOs and NFTs were just distractions trying to ride the wave. The fundamentals remain strong. It really hasn't changed much in 15 years. The Hacker News comments certainly haven't either. Salty as ever.

Bitcoin is a speculative asset like a stock.

Bitcoin has maintained its fundamentals for 15 years. People place value on mature things. Lindy’s law. It’s fair to speculate Bitcoin will be around for a long time to come.

Re: Bitcoin is over $100k

#219
post #10

Important to remember that while income and wealth inequality is at record highs, the trillions of dollars injected into the economy are still floating around among the top. People are getting more and more creative with investments (see luxury watches, sneakers, trading cards, collectibles, meme stocks all seeing a significant bump in value in recent years). Bitcoin's price is simply another symptom of this. What I…

> it is a speculative investment and nothing more.

Mostly yes. The only true value I see is that Bitcoin is the new Swiss banking. So if you don’t trust your government then you get yourself some Bitcoins. I realized this while reading a book about Swiss banking. It also used to involve elaborate schemes to preserve client privacy.

Re: Bitcoin is over $100k

#220
post #183

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I'm curious what you'll "blame" the next 50% price increase on.

No telling what the next big move will be caused by. Feb 2024: +50%. Approval of Bitcoin ETFs in the United States Nov 2024: +50%. US election results ??? ????: ???%. ????

> ??? ????: ???%. ????

BTC used as El-Salvador style sovereign wealth reserve

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