Hey dude. Any idea if 1000 labelled images are good enough for training and how much time it would take to train on a a40 nvidia like on https://www.runpod.io/pricing ?
Breaking the 4Chan CAPTCHA
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Re: Breaking the 4Chan CAPTCHA
#212Earlier quoted context omitted.
So, I do this type of AI development for solving CAPTCHAs. I can't get any real jobs that pay me for my more advanced skills. My primary sins were going to a second/third-tier university and some performance concerns in a portion of my previous roles due to divorce and burn-out. I make $80k/year in government IT, and $30-150k/year as the "AI" guy in a small 2-5 person group that offers a CAPTCHA-breaking API. The spa…
Why do you do this? While I can appreciate the technical achievement, you know most users of forums and imageboards don’t want any AI content at all.
> Why do you do this?
Money, obviously. I'd also do it for $30-150k/year
> you know most users of forums and imageboards don’t want any AI content at all.
He's not creating or posting any "AI content"?
Re: Breaking the 4Chan CAPTCHA
#213Earlier quoted context omitted.
So, I do this type of AI development for solving CAPTCHAs. I can't get any real jobs that pay me for my more advanced skills. My primary sins were going to a second/third-tier university and some performance concerns in a portion of my previous roles due to divorce and burn-out. I make $80k/year in government IT, and $30-150k/year as the "AI" guy in a small 2-5 person group that offers a CAPTCHA-breaking API. The spa…
Why do you do this? While I can appreciate the technical achievement, you know most users of forums and imageboards don’t want any AI content at all.
People who do jobs like that don’t really care about the impact
Re: Breaking the 4Chan CAPTCHA
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Just because you can technically crack them doesn't mean they're useless. There's a significant amount of time, skill and effort that went into the solution from this post, and the end result doesn't generalize well (you'd have to start all over for a different kind of captcha). The vast majority of spammers would not be able to replicate this; those who do would either make money legitimately, or focus their skills…
So, I do this type of AI development for solving CAPTCHAs. I can't get any real jobs that pay me for my more advanced skills. My primary sins were going to a second/third-tier university and some performance concerns in a portion of my previous roles due to divorce and burn-out. I make $80k/year in government IT, and $30-150k/year as the "AI" guy in a small 2-5 person group that offers a CAPTCHA-breaking API. The spa…
Despite the spamming angle, I think CAPTCHA-breaking is, on the balance, noble and honorable work. These things are user-hostile blights on the web, and any effort towards making them disappear as useless is worthwhile. Sites worried about spam should invest more in automated spam classification/elimination instead of punishing real users with CAPTCHA-solving. Not that I can offer a solution--if I could, I'd be a millionaire.
Re: Breaking the 4Chan CAPTCHA
#215It’s nice to see this posted and interesting that it’s in tensorflow. I wonder for how many years the capture was already broken but not just posted about publicly.
Re: Breaking the 4Chan CAPTCHA
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That's kinda what every major captcha distributor does already! Even before captcha is being served your TLS is first fingerprinted, then your IP, then your HTTP2, then your request, then your javascript environment (including font and image rendering capabilities) and browser itself. These are used to calculate a trust score which determines whether captcha will be served at all. Only then it makes sense to analyze…
In that case why do I ever receive a captcha?
I found several websites switched to 'press here until the timer runs out', probably they are doing the checks while the user is holding their mouse pressed, it would be trivial to bypass the long press by itself with automated mouse clickers.
Re: Breaking the 4Chan CAPTCHA
#217That’s like spending a few hours, learning to take the lid off your septic tank.
Oddly enough, I find most of 4chan less brainrot inducing than Twitter, even pre-Musk.
There's no smart algorithm for sorting posts, and there's a limited number of active threads, so it's not rage baiting in quite the same way. Only active threads stay alive though, so it has the exact same issue as twitter and other social media, only engaging content is served to users, and the most engaging things are rage bait, conspiracy theories, and porn. Things that get someone riled up enough to respond.
Re: Breaking the 4Chan CAPTCHA
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4chan doesn't care about human annoyance. They just started doing a 15 minute post delay, which is infuriating. I had to whitelist 4chan in Cookie AutoDelete.
Hi fellow cookie autodeleter, I experienced the same thing, but I just decided to stop posting. Whitelisting felt too much like giving in to terrorists. I'm considering just not going there in the future. Maybe after all this time I will finally be free.
See you tomorrow, anon.
Re: Breaking the 4Chan CAPTCHA
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Not the rampant racism or sexism or simple misanthropy or outright calls to violence or overflowing hostility. It's the spam that tops the problem list.
> Not the rampant racism or sexism or simple misanthropy or outright calls to violence or overflowing hostility. Isn't that more easily solved by just not visiting the site in the first place?
This problem is a societal one, it mostly harms you indirectly by creating spaces for hateful ideas to spread, 4chan's harm is through the capacity to organize and strengthen hateful and harmful political movements. More socially conscious people not visiting the site only serves to create a stronger echo chamber.