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Re: Why the Guardian is no longer posting on X

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Post by aeternum »

fwip wrote: post #140
anunes wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are community notes impartial?

Community notes are not impartial, they are written and approved by the users who sign up to do so (and actually take the time to do this unpaid labor). Thus, they tend to reflect the biases of the kind of people who most want to (and have time to) write and approve community notes, drawn from the pool of people who use your site.

Now do democracy and voting. Or how about serving on a jury. Or serving on a school board.

By your definition those also must not be impartial and maybe that is a fair definition but what does it imply?

Do you similarly distrust democratic outcomes, jury decisions, etc.?

Re: Why the Guardian is no longer posting on X

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Post by ebcode »

threatofrain wrote: post #149
n0id34 wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's ridiculous for any media to have a political bias, defeats the entire purpose of the media if it's already skewed when it's consumed.

What if I specifically want to consume media that is biased towards technological exploration and advancement?

then you're on the right website! ...though maybe not in the right thread...

Re: Why the Guardian is no longer posting on X

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Post by valval »

jslaby wrote: post #198
dools wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Musk claims he is trying to be an open and free speech town square. I don’t have an opinion on whether he did this or not but it is certainly the case that if he put his finger on the scales that goes against his claims.

I just created an account on X and the list that pops up to follow: Elon, Terrence Williams, Sebastian Gorka, Dinesh D'Souza, Rand Paul, Dan Bongino, Leo Terrell, Tom Fitton, Mark Levin, Tiffany Smiley, Breitbart News, Matt Gaetz... not a single "left leaning" account other than Joe Biden and maybe Neil Degrasse Tyson, but I chose sports and science as my interests. Open and free speech, right..

Since it’s the platform that takes freedom of speech the most seriously, it caters to people who are for freedom of speech.

Re: Why the Guardian is no longer posting on X

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Post by UltraSane »

seydor wrote: post #30

Yann Lecun is also telling everyone on Twitter very loudly that he won't be posting on Twitter. The Guardian in another article explains that they are annoyed because Musk used twitter to promote his preferred candidate. The Guardian itself used their own platform to publicly endorse Harris. This deja-vu of childish antics is just comical in 2024

The richest man in the world using his own social media company to get someone elected President so he can benefit personally from writing his own regulations is something EVERYONE should be very VERY concerned about. The US is on the path to Russian style oligarchic kleptocracy.

Re: Why the Guardian is no longer posting on X

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Post by UltraSane »

lend000 wrote: post #17

It's wild how much most people rely on being in an echo chamber. It takes a psychological toll being confronted with opinions that challenge your worldview on a regular basis, especially if you cannot easily dismiss them. I haven't seen any of the things the Guardian mentions on my feed -- it's mostly startup related, software related, finance news, and science/medical stuff with maybe ~10% of posts I come across hav…

I don't mind opinions that challenge my worldview. I despise complete lies like what Alex Jones spews.

Re: Why the Guardian is no longer posting on X

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Post by valval »

grahamj wrote: post #51
seydor wrote: post #30

Yann Lecun is also telling everyone on Twitter very loudly that he won't be posting on Twitter. The Guardian in another article explains that they are annoyed because Musk used twitter to promote his preferred candidate. The Guardian itself used their own platform to publicly endorse Harris. This deja-vu of childish antics is just comical in 2024

I think it's much more reasonable for a news outlet to have a political opinion than a social platform.

The social platform doesn’t have a political opinion. Its owner does. Every owner of every company ever has had political opinions.

Re: Why the Guardian is no longer posting on X

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Post by UltraSane »

throw16180339 wrote: post #187
thruway516 wrote: post #108

I don't follow Musk on any social media, do not engage with any of his posts, or any even mildly related posts. Yet everytime I login, there he is again at the top of my timeline usually promoting some inane conspiracy theory. Does he think so little of my intelligence that he doesn't think he needs to be even a little bit subtle about manipulating the content I consume or he just doesn't care? Yeah I too have left f…

I don't think he needs to care. The election demonstrated that most people will believe anything they're told.

Like the proles in 1984.

Re: Why the Guardian is no longer posting on X

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Post by UltraSane »

briandear wrote: post #204

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"some people having their feelings hurt that they don’t censor opposing views like they used to."

This is an extremely dishonest take on what is happening.

What is ACTUALLY happening is the world's richest man using his media company to manipulate an election.

Re: Why the Guardian is no longer posting on X

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Post by UltraSane »

rakfhG wrote: post #171

So, the Guardian is probably community-noted on beautiful hit pieces like this one: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/04/is-trump-a-f... Stanley continued: “Trump and the people behind him have already promised to replace the government at all levels with loyalists. [LGBTQ+] citizens, particularly trans citizens and their families, will have to leave the country. Political opponents will be targeted in som…

That seems largely irrelevant to the core thesis of the article.

Re: Why the Guardian is no longer posting on X

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Post by defrost »

valval wrote: post #213
jslaby wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just created an account on X and the list that pops up to follow: Elon, Terrence Williams, Sebastian Gorka, Dinesh D'Souza, Rand Paul, Dan Bongino, Leo Terrell, Tom Fitton, Mark Levin, Tiffany Smiley, Breitbart News, Matt Gaetz... not a single "left leaning" account other than Joe Biden and maybe Neil Degrasse Tyson, but I chose sports and science as my interests. Open and free speech, right..

Since it’s the platform that takes freedom of speech the most seriously, it caters to people who are for freedom of speech.

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