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Bitcoin has made a new all-time high price

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Re: Bitcoin has made a new all-time high price

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What happens when they bust out the $5 wrench?

They would need 300 million wrenches, one for each citizen. That leaves society in a much better position than letting them do it at scale with an sql query.

Are wrenches single-use, or are you allocating individual attackers per-citizen? In the case of a successful wrench attacker, how are the stolen funds recovered?

Re: Bitcoin has made a new all-time high price

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TVs and memory cards keep getting cheaper, not more expensive.

yes, that is what deflation is

Deflation is a fall in the general price level. A fall in the price of some goods or of a particular good is not deflation.

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Another difference is that you aren't arbitrarily excluded from being able to buy Bitcoin based on where you're born.

Bitcoin itself won't exclude you. But depending on where you are, buying Bitcoin might be illegal.

Oh, definitely. Those are, generally speaking, the places where it's most important that you can do so: the People's Republic of China, North Korea, Afghanistan, Egypt, Bangladesh, etc. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_cryptocurrency_by_.... But it's legal in almost all of the world, and fairly easy, while opening an account with a NASDAQ-listed broker is near impossible for most people.

Re: Bitcoin has made a new all-time high price

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This depends on one's consumer preferences. The CPI includes depreciating items that does not scale with income, like healthcare , cars, clothes, and food. Someone with a net worth of millions of dollars incurs likely a smaller opportunity cost. But I agree despite the hype Bitcoin's returns are still poor and easily surpassed by the S&P 500.

>But I agree despite the hype Bitcoin's returns are still poor and easily surpassed by the S&P 500. Over what time period?

Recent history I presume because obviously if you bought at $5 your return is still quite nice. Although, GP suggests you’d now be better of selling btc and buying the index to optimize future returns.

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I know you are being snarky, but i think its worth pointing out that ever increasing prices is bad for a medium of exchange not good. The higher prices decreases the liklihood of it being used like a currency.

When Bitcoin was conceived economists said it would have built-in deflation and it seems they were right

No economist said that. Deflation refers to the behaviour of the price level. As such it isn't a property that assets can have.

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Definitely do not touch Binance. Coinbase and Kraken are the most reputable options. If you're unsure, hire a professional. Think of it as paying 0.02% as insurance against mistakes.

Isn't Binance by far the most widely used exchange? I think that if you're unsure you need to study the topic so you can tell which "professionals" are professional con men.

> Isn't Binance by far the most widely used exchange?

Ostensibly yes. But they're overseas, so what's your recourse if something goes wrong? If you wouldn't trust a random overseas Italian bank to handle your money, don't trust Binance either.

> I think that if you're unsure you need to study the topic so you can tell which "professionals" are professional con men.

To be clear I was referring to financial advisors from the traditional financial sector. Bitcoin is big enough now that they'll have a playbook for it. Don't hire a "crypto" professional.

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Definitely do not touch Binance. Coinbase and Kraken are the most reputable options. If you're unsure, hire a professional. Think of it as paying 0.02% as insurance against mistakes.

How do you find a professional you can actually trust? Any search results in hundreds of scams.

Your due diligence should be the same as for a financial advisor handling your USD. Bitcoin is big enough now that they'll have a playbook for it. Don't hire a "crypto" professional.

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So I suppose people must use it all the time to buy goods and services. Right?

It's digital gold. For whatever that is worth.

'Digital gold' is a meaningless sentence. What is digital gold? How does it differ from, say, digital iron?

Re: Bitcoin has made a new all-time high price

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Soon this will all collapse, reaching all time highs isn't a good thing. Pyramid scheme at best, ponzi scheme at worst. I still don't know any use case for this other than speculation and people aren't even using it in the real world.

The real use case is self defense against the arbitrary devaluation of fiat currency. As wildly imperfect as crypto is at that task, it's the best we have in a fungible, digital form. So pessimistic investors flee to it. The worst case for a crypto investor is for the dollar to be restored to a stable store of value. To outcompete crypto, just whip inflation.

If Bitcoin can be traced (which it can), then it isn't fungible.

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Yes. All the time, just not for the things you and I buy such as groceries and transportation. Instead Bitcoin is used to buy illegal products and services such as drugs, weapons, politicians and hit men

USD and EUR is also used to buy illegal products.

Well, yes, fiat is extraordinarily useful, and used, including for crime. However, there are many rules and mechanisms in place to stop fiat being used for crime (KYC, AML, CTF, ...). So, it is better suited to legitimate transactions, and worse for illegitimate ones. Lastly, fiat is indispensable in running a modern economy.

In contrast, crypto is designed (qua permissionlessness) to evade regulation. Since it's fairly crappy technology, it's also slow and inefficient and cumbersome. So, it is better suited to illegitimate transactions than to legitimate ones. Lastly, crypto is entirely dispensable.

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