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Re: SSH Remoting

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Post by _hyn3 »

nurumaik wrote: post #94
Protostome wrote: post #36

with a little bit of work, vi/emacs works great as an IDE for most setups... The learning curve is steep but once you get the gist, you never go back to those bloated IDEs. (Disclaimer: I haven't tried zed, but have been working throughout my career with Eclipse, Visual C/C++/Basic (!), Atom)

Try remote development with vim over 200ms ping ssh connection

I have frequently done full vim editing on primary development boxes across cross-Atlantic pipes, which are usually 150ms from where I am in the states. Not really a bad experience in any way, tbh. I'm sure my tolerance level would decrease dramatically at 300ms though.

Re: SSH Remoting

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Post by _hyn3 »

Aeolun wrote: post #26
p-e-w wrote: post #9

Caveat emptor: "Zed downloads NodeJS binary and npm packages from Internet without user’s consent"[1] This has been an open issue for 5 months. When I noticed it, I couldn't believe my eyes and it was the last time I've run Zed so far. Judge for yourself whether this is a deal-breaker for you; I wish I had known about it earlier. [1] https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/issues/12589

I don't see how this is different from having all these pre-bundled with a new version of Zed? Either way I'm going to download all of them again.

What I might trust on my laptop is TOTALLY different from what my company might allow on a remote server.

Re: SSH Remoting

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Post by _hyn3 »

fredoliveira wrote: post #123
indulona wrote: post #70

why is there so much hype about yet another editor?

If we all stuck to the first thing that worked and searched for no improvements whatsoever, we'd all be riding horses.

I'm still riding text-mode vim over ssh, and it's very fast and suits me just fine. If I get frisky, I can always go check out the latest plugins.

Re: SSH Remoting

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Post by caeril »

Wow, this is some incredible technology. It's not like tmux and neovim have been available for a decade now. This is like space-age alien technology with which, for the first time ever, we can develop over ssh!

What a world we live in, what a time to be alive!

Re: SSH Remoting

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Post by gitaarik »

prmoustache wrote: post #49
zifpanachr23 wrote: post #47

I'd really like a good remote editing solution that is genuinely portable. I don't think there's anything technical stopping that from happening (and I've tried some half baked solutions along those lines before). For a variety of reasons relating to my line of work, this or vscode's solution are no gos since they require you to install a server on the remote, and that server is interpreted or compiled in a language…

Although I don't understand why you would still want to do that with modern processes, configuration management, CICD tools and the decentralization of git, you can just mount the remote directory via ssh. People have been doing that for decades already. Works with any editor/ide/tool.

I guess the reason to run the IDE on the server is so that the IDE can inspect the whole (potentially huge) codebase and provide LSP features like code completion & go-to definition, and AI assistance.

Re: SSH Remoting

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Post by gitaarik »

_hyn3 wrote: post #208

Running an unknown app on a trusted remote server under your local user account - not a good idea! Just keep it local on your own machine. Your editor can handle everything way faster locally, plus it can grab files with SSH’s built-in (and mature to the point of being ancient!) capabilities: caching, compression, and instant text file downloads over an open connection. You can even check for remote file changes usin…

I guess the reason to run the IDE on the server is so that the IDE can inspect the whole (potentially huge) codebase and provide LSP features like code completion & go-to definition, and AI assistance etc.

Re: SSH Remoting

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Post by mardifoufs »

eadmund wrote: post #137

Those who do not understand Emacs are doomed to repeat it. Poorly, in worse languages. —C.S. Santayana Emacs TRAMP mode has been doing this for 26 years, since November 1998. Fashions come, and fashions go, and Emacs remains. Anyone remember Atom? Anyone remember TextMate? Just use vi or Emacs.

Vscode's remote SSH is much better than tramp mode imo. They are not really on the same level.

Re: SSH Remoting

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Post by noufalibrahim »

globular-toast wrote: post #181
noufalibrahim wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The default setup is pretty crappy but with some tweaking of the ssh connection setup, It does a decent job and I used it for actual work for several years.

Would you mind outlining the settings or pointing to a reference?

It's been a long time. Most of the stuff I was able to get from conversations on the Emacs IRC channel of freenode. Many of those "tricks" are documented here https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/TrampMode but I don't know if it's out of date.

Re: SSH Remoting

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Post by ecmascript »

herval wrote: post #86
ecmascript wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But with Jetbrains products, you pay or the entire software, not just part of it .

Community edition is free, and it’s a sizable chunk of the entire product

The difference is, all the important features are behind a paywall. This will not be the case for Zed it seems.

I have never worked at a place that uses Jetbrains products which does not pay for their premium offering.

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