Ozempic linked to lower Alzheimer's risk in people with Type 2 diabetes • Hacker News Board

Re: Ozempic linked to lower Alzheimer's risk in people with Type 2 diabetes

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Post by consteval » Mon, Oct 28, 2024, 2:43 PM UTC

apwell23 wrote: post #210

consteval wrote: post #203

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all of it

their own pamphlet is wrong ? "Taking the medication could be linked to ileus, a condition where the intestines temporarily stop functioning. Increase risk of Gastroparesis"

That's a side effect, dumbass. Every medicine has side effects. It's not the primary purpose of the drug or even a likely outcome, like you originally implied.

Why even bother lying if you don't possess the intelligence to formulate even a shallow deception? You understand that attempting to be deceptive, and then demonstrating you're too stupid for even simple deceptions is worse than if you had just said nothing, right?

Some advice: if you have to employ deception to make your argument, your argument is probably shit and probably isn't even worth the sound waves it travels on. So go back to the drawing board and trying coming up with something less fucking stupid.

Re: Ozempic linked to lower Alzheimer's risk in people with Type 2 diabetes

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Post by consteval » Mon, Oct 28, 2024, 8:27 PM UTC

cynicalpeace wrote: post #209

consteval wrote: post #208

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> Exercise and diet do work. Next! First off this "Next!" nonsense is annoying. Second off you're not understanding what I'm saying. Just because something works FOR YOU does not mean this is a systemic solution! To be perfectly clear, what you're suggesting is not novel. In fact, it's so tired I don't even know why you bother to speak it. This has been our solution for the entirety the problem has existed. Well, is…

> This has been our solution for the entirety the problem has existed. lol us American's eat like crap and barely walk. It has not been the solution in this country. Just because the solution is simple does not mean it is easy. Stealing is a great example of a cultural problem. Did you know some countries are more dangerous than others? In fact, did you know in some communities stealing doesn't happen very much or at…

> lol us American's eat like crap and barely walk. It has not been the solution in this country

Again, you're not understanding and I'm just not sure how much more I can dumb this down.

When you are fat, the thing everyone will tell you is "eat healthier and move more"

That has been our approach to the obesity epidemic since the beginning. And it's not working.

> Individual behavior, cultural upbringing, economic circumstance, physical environment, etc. These things are way more important than any drug or policy and minimally impacted by them

Literally all of those are directly impacted by policy.

If you legitimately think culture, economy, and physical environment has nothing to do with policy, go move to South Sudan. If you're truly that unbelievably stupid, put your money where your mouth is.

Re: Ozempic linked to lower Alzheimer's risk in people with Type 2 diabetes

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Post by cynicalpeace » Mon, Oct 28, 2024, 11:31 PM UTC

consteval wrote: post #212

cynicalpeace wrote: post #209

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> This has been our solution for the entirety the problem has existed. lol us American's eat like crap and barely walk. It has not been the solution in this country. Just because the solution is simple does not mean it is easy. Stealing is a great example of a cultural problem. Did you know some countries are more dangerous than others? In fact, did you know in some communities stealing doesn't happen very much or at…

> lol us American's eat like crap and barely walk. It has not been the solution in this country Again, you're not understanding and I'm just not sure how much more I can dumb this down. When you are fat, the thing everyone will tell you is "eat healthier and move more" That has been our approach to the obesity epidemic since the beginning. And it's not working. > Individual behavior, cultural upbringing, economic cir…

> When you are fat, the thing everyone will tell you is "eat healthier and move more"

> That has been our approach to the obesity epidemic since the beginning. And it's not working.

If you don't actually move more and eat healthier, yeah it won't work. Saying something and doing something are 2 different things. Anyone that does it will lose weight and be healthier. There's really no getting around it.

> If you legitimately think culture, economy, and physical environment has nothing to do with policy.

I never said "nothing" to do with policy. Read my comments again. I'm arguing against policy being the only solution and you took that to mean something else.

Culture and personal responsibility have a role in health. Next!

Re: Ozempic linked to lower Alzheimer's risk in people with Type 2 diabetes

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Post by consteval » Wed, Oct 30, 2024, 4:13 PM UTC

cynicalpeace wrote: post #213

consteval wrote: post #212

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> lol us American's eat like crap and barely walk. It has not been the solution in this country Again, you're not understanding and I'm just not sure how much more I can dumb this down. When you are fat, the thing everyone will tell you is "eat healthier and move more" That has been our approach to the obesity epidemic since the beginning. And it's not working. > Individual behavior, cultural upbringing, economic cir…

> When you are fat, the thing everyone will tell you is "eat healthier and move more" > That has been our approach to the obesity epidemic since the beginning. And it's not working. If you don't actually move more and eat healthier, yeah it won't work. Saying something and doing something are 2 different things. Anyone that does it will lose weight and be healthier. There's really no getting around it. > If you legit…

> Saying something and doing something are 2 different things

Exactly, it looks like it's clicking for you. Just telling people to move more doesn't work. I'm glad we've finally come to agreement on something that is an obvious reality.

> I'm arguing against policy being the only solution and you took that to mean something else

And additional solutions include...? Oh, fuck all? Because, as a reminder, you haven't actually proposed anything. You've just been talking out of your ass and saying things that directly contradict with reality.

Yes, it would be nice if we could just say "eat less" and magically solve everything. That is about the level of problem solving I'd expect from a 5 year old, so at least you've gotten there.

But dig deeper. Think critically. Do you think if I stood on the street corner and held a sign that said "dope is bad" addiction would go away? Now what if I employed policies to limit the amount of opiates distributed?

What sounds more feasible to you? Employing policies that help people lose weight? Or collectively brainwashing billions of people globally so they lose the weight themselves? Are you seeing how one is an actual solution, and the other is the dreams of a child?