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Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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Post by wingworks »

andrewmunsell wrote: post #15
giarc wrote: post #12

I'm a part time maker and purchase a lot of designs off of Etsy to make into physical goods. I have to weed through so many AI images when purchasing designs off of Etsy now. I wish they required users to indicate if AI was used to produce the image so I could then filter them out.

Sellers are actually supposed to mark items as AI generated/assisted, where applicable: https://techcrunch.com/2024/07/09/etsy-new-seller-policy-202... Whether they actually do this (and whether there's any incentive to do so), is obviously not a given

It's currently optional for sellers, Etsy says "This info won’t change what buyers see for now, but will be used to improve the shopping experience in the future."

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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Post by Nifty3929 »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #53

Almost all of the "product X vs Y" results are AI ramblings now. This growth of the dead Internet is making me want to sign up for Kagi. We're going to need a certification for human generated content at some point.

I'm not sure human-generated content is any better on the whole. BS-laden drivel has been pervasive for some time now, even before AI started taking over.

I'm talking about those 300-word, ad-ridden crap articles that are SEO'd right to the top, and if you're lucky you might get the 3-word answer you were looking for: "... and in conclusion, .". Anyway, humans have been getting paid pennies to write those for a while.

AI just turns the throughput on that up to 11, where there's just no end in sight. I think this is like the primary failure mode of AI at this point. It's not going to kill us - we're going to use it to kill the internet. OTOH, maybe then we just go outside and play.

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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Post by Nifty3929 »

rootusrootus wrote: post #77
CSMastermind wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It really is a werid feeling remembering the internet of my youth and even my 20s and knowing that it will never exist again.

I'm a little sad for anyone who didn't get to experience the Internet of the twentieth century. It was a unique point in time. I'm ready to pay for a walled garden where the incentives are aligned towards me, instead of against me. I know that puts me in a minority, but I'm tired of the advertising 'net.

Would you pay a nominal amount (like 5 cents or 25 cents) to consume one piece of good, ad-free content, assuming that there was no login, no account, no friction, etc? You click, you read, and 5 cents is magically transferred from you to the writer?

I would. But I've asked a lot of people who say "no, I don't want to pay when I can read it for free. I don't mind the ads that much."

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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Post by AlexandrB »

dumbmrblah wrote: post #86
chongli wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The old internet seems to be doing much better. But it lost most of its users in the last 15 years.. What do you mean by this? How do you find the old internet?

Something Awful is a good example. Other forums behind paywalls or ones that are invite only.

Even non-paywalled forums are pretty good compared to the "open" internet.

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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Post by Nifty3929 »

claudiulodro wrote: post #25

Google is going to have to solve for this somehow if they want to remain relevant, right? If searching for an image and generating the image yield the same result, what's the point of image search any more?

The problem is - how does Google get paid for providing this service. In a way, the better the service they offer, the less money they make. It really sucks.

Would you pay money to Google or some other company in exchange for a genuinely good search service that prioritizes well written content, and avoids AI (or human) generated crapticles?

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Post by rakoo »

ssl-3 wrote: post #178
coldpie wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It still exists. Currently it looks like Patreons and their associated communities, long-running web forums, small chatrooms on platforms like Discord or Facebook or Instagram, and so on. Small communities, with relatively high barriers to entry.

That's not the same Internet. Patreon, forums, Discord, Facebook, Instagram and so on are all centralized. With the Internet of the 90s, discussion happened with decentralized Usenet (owned by nobody) with more-focused discussion happening on mailing lists (literally owned by whoever was smart enough to get Majordomo compiled and running). Email was handled by individual ISPs or other orgs instead of funneled through…

All of this still exists today though. It hasn't disappeared, it has only been drowned.

If you want to find it again, change your search engine. Use wiby.me, or search.marginalia.nu. Subscribe to RSS feeds of sites you find interesting, and go from there. Hop on gemini. Subscribe to some activitypub accounts (you don't even need an account for that). Communal IRC servers still exist, forums still exist, independent emails still exist.

Stop falling for the overall doomism HN is so quick to fall for, start doing and living what you want

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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Post by AlexandrB »

kredd wrote: post #192
jonathanstrange wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Searching with "Reddit" at the end of every query helps but I suppose it's only a matter of time when most content on Reddit is also AI-generated.

If you know anyone who works in marketing/PR, ask them how they use Reddit. That has been gamified as much as SEO since about 2020. I’m assuming, anything except “why is there a fire in this street?” kind of posts are just ads at this point.

The "top n" subreddits are surely gamified but smaller, highly-focused subreddits seem ok.

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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Post by NoMoreNicksLeft »

theginger wrote: post #69
NoMoreNicksLeft wrote: post #41

It's not even the right terminology. I think you should probably use "peafowl". The search "peafowl chicks" seems to return all real images.

I think this is kind of key to the issue, the good content is there if you know how to find it. But if you don't know the right terminology then you are going to search for baby peacock and get bad results.

Well, that makes me wonder if the search isn't flawed primarily because it is an image search. I try to stress to my children how important it is to prefer reading material over "watching material". And while these are stills (photographs seems inappropriate), the fact that because they are images the search can't possible help you to self-correct. Google has no opportunity to show you the correct terminology within the results, and you do not learn enough to then go out and find the images you were hoping for.

I know there are exceptions. There are answers I've wanted that can be found within the first few minutes of the first video on Youtube, which I've gone days without discovering because I'm video-averse. But I suspect that the habit is, on average, more benefit than detriment.

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Post by FabHK »

bagels wrote: post #163
tambourine_man wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We need certification for human generated content for yesterday. Not only that, we desperately need cryptographic prof that content X was produced by person Y.

How can that ever work in a world filled with people that are eager to lie to you?

digital signatures?
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