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How AlphaChip transformed computer chip design

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Re: How AlphaChip transformed computer chip design

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There's a lot of... passionate discussion in this thread, but we shouldn't lose sight of the big picture -- Google has used AlphaChip in multiple generations of TPU, their flagship AI accelerator. This is a multi-billion dollar project that is strategically critical for the success of the company. The idea that they're secretly making TPUs worse in order to prop up a research paper is just absurd. Google has even exp…

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Re: How AlphaChip transformed computer chip design

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Science is not done by quotes from VPs, and we don't know how MediaTek used these methods. Also, would you like to hear from VPs who wasted their company resources on Google RL and gave up? The more marketing claims we see, the less compelling the Google story is. Your perseverance is as admirable as it is suspicious. You are the lonely voice here defending the Google announcement.

Unfortunately, there aren't publicly available benchmarks for modern technology node sizes, at least not that I'm aware of. Kahng compared on 45nm and 12nm chips, which are very different from a physical design perspective from the 4nm technology node size used by Dimensity 5G, or the sub-10nm technology node size of TPU. "MLContra" used a >100nm technology node size, which is just crazy. Even if the AlphaChip author…

Yes, that's unfortunate. In that case, the Google Nature paper doesn't belong in Nature. Google is definitely free to claim that they revolutionized their business, but without scientific evidence this is just marketing.
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