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Being Raised by the Internet

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Post by einichi »

RajT88 wrote: post #183
caseyy wrote: post #172

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> although it is that those who most firmly enforce it also cherish silly habits like saying "bring your whole self to work." It is my understanding that about 50% of the cultural values companies prescribe to their teams are values they don't want to see adopted. Speaking up when something is wrong, open door policies, and work-life balance are the usual suspects. Continuous learning and development are also values…

> Continuous learning and development are also values that employees are often invited to practice, though not when there's work to do! These are the things you're supposed to do on the evenings and weekends. Honestly, I'd love it if companies took the tack of giving employees projects based on the skills they want them to develop, instead of the skills they already have.

> These are the things you're supposed to do on the evenings and weekends.

I truly cannot tell if this is sarcasm.

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Post by amatecha »

stavros wrote: post #9
zoklet-enjoyer wrote: post #3

I grew up in a rural part of the United States. First got online in 1996 when I was 8 years old. The best thing that the Internet gave me was a way to talk to strangers from around the world and make friends with people who I would have never had a chance to interact with in person. In my 20s, it lead to real life friendships with people I had met online, which is really cool. I have used Couch Surfing to make friend…

20 years later, some of my closest friends are those I met in 97 in a MUD. I have other friends, of course, but it's notable that friendships have endured entirely online for twenty years. Some of those friends I've talked to every day, or every few days, for decades, but I've only seen once or twice IRL.

Hell yeah, I still chat regularly with a couple friends I met online in like 1999. One of them I talk with almost daily. Surprisingly the whole "extremely online" approach has meant some really solid long-lasting connections. :)

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Post by isoprophlex »

If OP was 12 today, in 2024, would he have gotten into Linux? Or would he have been sucked into watching endless MrBeast videos?

It's easier than ever to get started understanding and building software... but at the same time it seems easier than ever to get distracted by the modern internet.

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Post by niemandhier »

“When I look back and think about those times, I'm amazed but how much I owe to people who I never met”

So much has changed:

I read a post on a forum the other day, some kid asking questions about PyTorch. Rather than getting help, the poor soul was berated for not using “they/them”…

We moved away from building our communities on shared interests, towards building them based on shared sentiment, which has to be proven by behavior.

Unfortunately joining such a community is much more difficult.

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Post by pushupentry1219 »

lifter3101 wrote: post #199
pushupentry1219 wrote: post #119

As someone of the younger generation, I think "raised by the internet" these days is extremely toxic and non-productive not at all what the author here is talking about in this lovely post. When someone says "I was raised by the internet", I immediately think: social media addiction, 4chan and other online obscenities. But this is completely based on my own personal experience. My point here is not related to this lo…

I’m pretty sure the author of the post would have had a similar trajectory had he been growing up now. People who are innately curious and self motivated will always find a Linux networking tutorial. Even if it comes in a form of a TikTok video and not a bunch of burned CDs.

Oh yeah no doubt. I'm more talking the specifics of the phrase "raised by the internet" and what it would mean to me, without the context of the article.

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Post by [deleted] »

pushupentry1219 wrote: post #184
NemoNobody wrote: post #170

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I hate that this comment is at the top of the page - that may be what you think but even if those exact sites, the chans, are the places a young person is spending their time that doesn't mean it's a problem necessarily. I'm an adult and I spend about 80% of my time in front of screen and so do all of you. I'm reminded of a Bible verse something about a log in your eye. That's what this is.

I actually agree with you here on all your points. The chans in general aren't a huge issue, though nowadays, 4chan in particular IS pretty bad last time I checked. I also don't like that my comment is at the top of the page it takes away from the article (on my screen it's third from top though).

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Post by Phiwise_ »

kragen wrote: post #187
ipaddr wrote: post #176

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People were running adsense and Amazon affilates in 2004. I visited many websites who would let you spin a wheel and send you a check if you won. Browsers would pay you to surf. Money was a big factor and you would have to go pre dot.com or the bbs world to find it. Geocities had ads. Punch the monkey was everywhere.

2004 was yesterday i was on the internet in 01992: before adsense, before monkey punchers, before geocities, before amazon, but not before dot-com, as my references to lynx and the nsf should have told you. money was a big factor but not in the way you are describing

1992 was 7 years before 2004, which was 20 years before today.

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Post by keep_walking »

As a kid I was out of the house for 12 hours a day playing outside. Although my parents were both working and we had food on the table, we were a pretty poor family. They were both exhausted after work and I yearned for their attention but I guess I could see that they were tired and suppressed my own needs. I became very withdrawn never speaking about my emotions or myself. Then age 10 my mother died and father became withdrawn alcoholic, basically in one fell sweep I lost both my parents. Computers and the internet were my only refuge. Be it pirated movies I could watch or play games.. I was there. At some point I became a really good competitive gamer so that gave me an opportunity to socialize a bit. I moved to a different game and crushed it there and made more internet friends. I got diagnosed with a lifelong chronic illness at that time (Graves Disease) but I still kept surviving. I was alienated from most of my real life friends because I couldn't relate to them. I was in a constant physical and emotional struggle and they were in the seat of stability. I wasted a lot of time but slowly I learned. At some point I realized that games aren't going to be a good financial support so I started learning programming and here I am in my mid 30s with a few years of coding experience(without a job currently and struggling). I can boldly say the internet has saved me, other people where I live and had nothing succumbed to street gangs and drugs. I know that I'm behind many peers I have in terms of life achievements but I also know where I come from and take pride that I've been able to survive up until now. I have stopped walking before thinking it's over but every time I have the strength to sit back up and start walking again.

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Post by Thorrez »

Phiwise_ wrote: post #217
kragen wrote: post #187

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2004 was yesterday i was on the internet in 01992: before adsense, before monkey punchers, before geocities, before amazon, but not before dot-com, as my references to lynx and the nsf should have told you. money was a big factor but not in the way you are describing

1992 was 7 years before 2004, which was 20 years before today.

>1992 was 7 years before 2004

1992 was 12 years before 2004

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