I used to love eating octopus, but since I've learned so much about their intelligence, I have not been able to bring myself to do so, anymore. I have the luxury of choice. There are many, in this world, that do not.
I doubt there are many people in the world whose diets rely on eating octopuses. You'd need either an environment that had octopuses in abundance despite having little of everything else, or a selective method of fishing that primarily caught octopuses.
Octopuses seen hunting together with fish
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#212aside: me after reading the headline: Shouldn't that be Octopii? But no! "The plural form octopii is doubly incorrect. Firstly, octopus derives from Greek, not Latin; its etymologically-consistent plural form is octopodes. Secondly, even if octopus were a second-declension Latin noun, the plural form would be octopi; in the correct plurals radii and gladii, with which octopii is analogous, the first ‘i’s are part of…
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#213aside: me after reading the headline: Shouldn't that be Octopii? But no! "The plural form octopii is doubly incorrect. Firstly, octopus derives from Greek, not Latin; its etymologically-consistent plural form is octopodes. Secondly, even if octopus were a second-declension Latin noun, the plural form would be octopi; in the correct plurals radii and gladii, with which octopii is analogous, the first ‘i’s are part of…
While I'm all for a history lesson (and the double-I octopii is indeed simply incorrect) I take issue with anyone insisting that "octopi" is wrong: 1. Language is neither static nor a series of rules to be blindly followed. The way a word was pluralized 1400 years ago has limited relevance today. 2. As noted just about everywhere, "octopodes" looks insane in any modern English sentence because we don't pluralize any…
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#215The octopuses I spoke to strenuously deny the fish abuse accusations. "It's true that our innovative management technique - Continuous Tactile Feedback - can look a little rough to the untrained eye, but our Food Collection Engineers are actually very well treated."
Yes but I've read the reports in the Annals of Oceanography and the sub-director General of Fishing Affairs said it is happening and the only reason they haven't been able to pursue it is that the dolphins keep vetoing any real measures at every yearly convention. It's a bit of a fishy subject.
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#216Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Octopuses seem to have quite a bit of independent cognition in each of their arms, which are wrangled by the central brain. Yes, that's inherent in the design. All grey matter (optimized for local intercommunication), no white matter (optimized for sending signals between regions). Each arm has its own ganglion ("CPU") and the central unit struggles to keep up with these and keep them coordinated.
living brains are not "CPUs"
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#217Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’ve been able to give up eating cephalopods, but pigs are too delicious to give up.
I try to eat meat to minimize the formula of: cruelty_cow = IntModifier * Animal_Intelligence /(AmountOfProvidedMeat/Deaths) * FrequencyOfEatingThisAnimal Solve for: Min (cruelty_cow + cruelty_pig + cruelty_octopus + ...) Where AmountOfProvidedMeat > NeededMeatForHealthyDiet And Cost * AmountOfProvidedMeat I've generally found that maximizing on Fish, Chicken, and Cow (in that order) seems to be the best bet. I tend…
Re: Octopuses seen hunting together with fish
#218aside: me after reading the headline: Shouldn't that be Octopii? But no! "The plural form octopii is doubly incorrect. Firstly, octopus derives from Greek, not Latin; its etymologically-consistent plural form is octopodes. Secondly, even if octopus were a second-declension Latin noun, the plural form would be octopi; in the correct plurals radii and gladii, with which octopii is analogous, the first ‘i’s are part of…
While I'm all for a history lesson (and the double-I octopii is indeed simply incorrect) I take issue with anyone insisting that "octopi" is wrong: 1. Language is neither static nor a series of rules to be blindly followed. The way a word was pluralized 1400 years ago has limited relevance today. 2. As noted just about everywhere, "octopodes" looks insane in any modern English sentence because we don't pluralize any…
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#219Literally a sucker punch. It doesn't seem like true cooperation as they don't share in the catch. I also didn't see any measurements of how much they caught versus hunting alone.
In the NPR article on it, the researcher says it is most likely beneficial for the fish because the octopus can pull prey out of crevices that the fish can't usually reach, so there is more food than either would have alone.
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#220Earlier quoted context omitted.
For the octopus it is. Of course, they have many more arms to punch with so this might not translate well to management of humans.
Eight direct reports.