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This privacy requirement at least makes sense, it is the local government’s responsibility to protect their citizens privacy.
Comments like the above reflect how big corporations have gotten, they will push and bend the laws until someone hits back. This is an example of a government hitting back. Good on them
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The sooner the better. This way local EU players can fill the void they'll leave. This insular isolation also fueled China's domestic SW sector.
this take is naive. building alternatives takes time and resources. the EU has neither. a diverse, competitive tech ecosystem with both EU and non-EU players is better than a protectionist approach. hoping for an exodus of major global players when you’re leapfrogged by both China and the US…
* ride hailing alternatives: FreeNow, Bolt
* food delivery: Wolt (technically owned by DoorDash, but still), Just Eat, Bolt Food
* bikes / scooters: Tier, Bolt, NextBike, Voi, and many others
If Uber leaves, there won't be any void to fill.
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The sooner the better. This way local EU players can fill the void they'll leave. This insular isolation also fueled China's domestic SW sector.
this take is naive. building alternatives takes time and resources. the EU has neither. a diverse, competitive tech ecosystem with both EU and non-EU players is better than a protectionist approach. hoping for an exodus of major global players when you’re leapfrogged by both China and the US…
The EU does not have the motivation, mostly. They are not rivals of the US in the way China is. So money goes elsewhere. Europe is still a continent with a whole bunch of people and quite a lot of money. The path of least resistance is to just use American solutions in some areas and to develop others locally. This might change and if there is a vacuum, it will be filled quickly.
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Which big tech company will be the first to stop doing business in Europe? It's going to happen sooner or later.
> Since the end of last year, Uber uses the successor to the Privacy Shield. Sounds like they're going to get condemned again in the future, seeing how these things get knocked down again and again. The EU commission is really dropping the ball there.
The EC has issued an "adequacy decision" regarding the new EU–US Data Privacy Framework (the replacement for Privacy Shield): https://commission.europa.eu/document/fa09cbad-dd7d-4684-ae6... and has begun "certifying" compliance with the Framework: https://www.dataprivacyframework.gov/list So maybe the DPAs will defer to the EC's interpretation of adequacy under the GDPR for this new Framework? Lots of unknowns though…
The goalposts on this move every 6 months, so the fines are easy money for the EU.
The companies are just collateral damage. For some reason HN is full of people who don’t actually understand this issue but feel very emotionally passionate that all US tech companies are evil and doing this on purpose.
“Just follow the law, you evil companies!”
Lol. They would if there was a clear law/process to follow that didn’t get shot down every few months.
As it stands, you cannot operate in the EU as a US company if you want to be totally immune from fines.
I urge you to talk to your government representatives (on both sides of the pond) if you care about this issue. This benefits nobody except for EU government coffers.
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The sooner the better. This way local EU players can fill the void they'll leave. This insular isolation also fueled China's domestic SW sector.
this take is naive. building alternatives takes time and resources. the EU has neither. a diverse, competitive tech ecosystem with both EU and non-EU players is better than a protectionist approach. hoping for an exodus of major global players when you’re leapfrogged by both China and the US…
Which big tech company will be the first to stop doing business in Europe? It's going to happen sooner or later.
They will however keep lobbying, support candidates favorable to them etc.
EU (and other governments) should be vigilant all the time. The moment they take it easy a bit, big tech will be back to their usual shenanigans
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Ah yes, the poor-poor American companies who assume that they God-given right to every single scrap of data on their users that they possibly can. Under the guise of "we and our 1400 partners would really like to track your every breath"