Telegram founder Pavel Durov arrested at French airport

Post by EugeneOZ » Sat, Aug 24, 2024, 10:04 PM UTC

Post by lxgr » Sat, Aug 24, 2024, 10:04 PM UTC

arresin wrote: post #180

lxgr wrote: post #46

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Telegram has, by design, message content accessible to whoever runs the servers. WhatsApp has gone to great lengths to not have that. Obviously there’s client security, potential backdoors, unencrypted backups, and many other things to worry about. But I don’t see a scenario where it fares worse than Telegram, and many where it’s significantly better.

Whatsapp has to have some kind of escape hatch if not back door simply because of the amount of heat it doesn’t get (think of all the regimes who are ok with it).

Post by llm_trw » Sat, Aug 24, 2024, 10:04 PM UTC

the_duke wrote: post #201

llm_trw wrote: post #174

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>A ~French~ Chinese citizen running a service in ~French~ Chinese is going to be subject to ~French~ Chinese laws and can expect to be arrested when they step into the country of ~French~ Chinese if they have charges pending. >This isn’t some grand conspiracy theory. Funny that when the wrong country does it it's tyranny. When a Western country does it it's the rule of law. Especially when they are the exact same thi…

Do you have any concrete examples where this would apply? (person getting arrested in China over an offered service) If not, this is just whataboutism. I can't think of any, to be honest.

Post by [deleted] » Sat, Aug 24, 2024, 10:05 PM UTC

felurx wrote: post #171

Not directly related to the arrest, but to Durov: His Telegram channel is somewhat odd. It's a mix of what you'd expect (updates / general stuff about Telegram), some slightly weird stuff (highly praising countries he visited or talking about his oh-so-high-quality sperm and how he's the biological father of "over 100" kids), and then there's just shilling for some random watch-ads-to-get-coins things or whatever tha…

Post by seszett » Sat, Aug 24, 2024, 10:05 PM UTC

chad1n wrote: post #118

gtvwill wrote: post #94

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No because those platforms make the values token effort to curb illegal activity via moderation be it user performed or done by their own employees. Telegram does not do this. Anywhere at all. It's very different.

I know chat rooms that have been nuked for Pornography etc. I reported some chats where I've seen inappropriate content and I received notifications that they were deleted. A lot of users are muted/banned too for illegal activities. It isn't exactly unmoderated, but the staff can't exactly search every single server under the sun for illegal material or activities. You probably don't know how bad Matrix is, out of 20…