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Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by slightwinder »

finikytou wrote: post #25
popcalc wrote: post #2

One-way flight to Russia? His Twitter feed for the last decade does give merit to the idea that he's been on the payroll.

sad to see that kind of comments in HN. I feel that 10 years ago there was more room for accepting that a political opponent should be free to speak up. now our educated masses are pushing for prison and extradition because they don't belong to the axis of good.... you def cannot be for opensource and its values and say things like that

Kim is not a political opponent, he is a convicted criminal who now very deep in fake news, conspiracy myths and other lies. This is not someone who has just a different opinion on some things, but one with a long history of seriously harmful behavior.

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Post by NoMoreNicksLeft »

tedivm wrote: post #162
curiousObject wrote: post #120

Kim DC is not a likeable or admirable person, but this vindictive pursuit seems even worse. It appears very similar to the treatment of Ross Ulbricht, Assange, maybe even Snowden? These are the equivalent of white collar crimes (typical massive frauds from the finance sector, etc) but they are getting a blue collar punishment of decades in jail that a successful and persistent street drug dealer could receive, NOT th…

One of these things is not like the other. Ross Ulbricht was part of a murder for hire scheme, and was not a whistle blower or anything close to a reporter. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Ulbricht#Murder-for-hire_...

So we're led to believe. But Ulbricht was identified via domestic NSA wiretaps; they used parallel construction to prosecute (oh yeh, the FBI just happened to stumble onto a Stackoverflow question of his years ago and used proper warrants against that!).

Why would I swallow any childish stories that the US attorney made up?

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Post by zeofig »

vessenes wrote: post #103

A fair amount of “this is fine, governments enforce IP laws and that’s a public good” vibes in here, which is all a very reasonable perspective. I’d argue Kim was too successful and too unlikeable at the end of the day, and that was probably his downfall. Toward the end, MEGA had transitioned to actually partnering with hip hop artists for distribution. The US has a long history of IP rights holders criminalizing new…

Yeah it's totally fine. No uncomfortable thoughts bubbling below the surface here.

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Post by hcfman »

DSingularity wrote: post #144
Tade0 wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Tweet about opposing war in ukraine arguing that NATO is outdated and not in the interest of Ukrainians? Oh pay no attention to him -- he is on the communist payroll. Hailing from a country that joined NATO in the 90s I wouldn't brand a person arguing this as being on communist payroll - just ignorant beyond measure. Russia has been a consistently bad neighbour for decades now and I for one am happy that in my coun…

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A decade ? That's optimistic.

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Post by tim333 »

stainablesteel wrote: post #118
preaching5271 wrote: post #24

I appreciate Kim Dotcom for running MegaUpload and later Mega, in a time when the internet was younger and wilder. Also for his pirate spirit and "stick it to the man" attitude. But everything has a limit, specifically his resistance against the law, even if he hid it behind virtues. I think it's clear for everybody that one cannot get away with this kind of stuff, once governments get involved. Isn't it wiser to sto…

not really, his website was based on hong kong, this is a fight against america playing world police, which i'm on board with they have no business going after just a single man so fervently, he's a foreign national and the websites weren't based in the US

He was predominantly stealing US intellectual property, films, TV shows and music and the like. And unlike say normal use of bittorrent, making a lot of money off it. And being the largest player doing that. I'm not sure about the morals but you can certainly understand financially why they've gone after him.

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Post by 0x9127831 »

Xunjin wrote: post #187
ein0p wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I'm sorry, but what is your point with this comment? I don't see a link at all with the topic.

According to others in this thread, Kim posted pro Russian Twitter messages. Another pro-Russian commentator, Scott Ritter, had his house searched this week and had his UN Iraq WMD documents taken.

None of us has the necessary information. Ritter clearly overshoots massively in his Russia commentary and I disagree with almost all things he says about Russia.

On the other hand, you can find associations of both him and DotCom with LaRouche. And LaRouche is a mystery:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/cult...

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Post by account42 »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #49
GrumpyNl wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

First we have to agree on whats a criminal.

Sure. I propose...a trial.

Genereally such a trial would take place in the jurisdiction of the accused unless the crime was physically committed somewhere else.

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

The US seems to have this knack of sliding itself into this narrow gap between individuals they're idealistically pursuing and something worse. "If I could just slip in there, ooh, that's tight, yes, thank you, aah comfy, this feels like where I belong".

In their desperate attempt to not lose a fight that's been going on for, what, 10 years? 15 years? They're increasingly looking like a child that cannot move on from a primary school sleight.

The US look like an ass because the law they're seemingly-autistically pursuing, is an ass.

Pragmatism has no place here, it would seem.

Also, downloading from Mega will get you a (partial at least) red flag from intelligence / law enforcement.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by hcfman »

DSingularity wrote: post #144
Tade0 wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Tweet about opposing war in ukraine arguing that NATO is outdated and not in the interest of Ukrainians? Oh pay no attention to him -- he is on the communist payroll. Hailing from a country that joined NATO in the 90s I wouldn't brand a person arguing this as being on communist payroll - just ignorant beyond measure. Russia has been a consistently bad neighbour for decades now and I for one am happy that in my coun…

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Those 10's of billions are billions that will never be used for fighting global warming, so the whole planet looses on wars.

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Post by chaostheory »

e40 wrote: post #166
curiousObject wrote: post #120

Kim DC is not a likeable or admirable person, but this vindictive pursuit seems even worse. It appears very similar to the treatment of Ross Ulbricht, Assange, maybe even Snowden? These are the equivalent of white collar crimes (typical massive frauds from the finance sector, etc) but they are getting a blue collar punishment of decades in jail that a successful and persistent street drug dealer could receive, NOT th…

Bernie Madoff got real prison time for his white collar crimes.

Likely due to the high profile nature of his crime. He still only served time in a tame white collar prison too.
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