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Ryanair wins screen scraping case against Booking.com in US court ruling

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Re: Ryanair wins screen scraping case against Booking.com in US court ruling

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post #23

pretty bad precedent, id argue that anything thats publicly accesible is free to be scraped. So unless they did something illegal via bypassing security, then this sets a really bad tone for internet archival, web scraping and data collection in the future.

In fact I wrote my own RyanAir scraper to get the best prices on flights (it is trivial to implement, they barely have any rate limits - in particular if you use the API endpoint where you search for flights departing from a specific airport). But I guess my scraping is a lot less, as I'm only looking for a few flights

Same here. Except my rate was sufficient to trigger throttling.

Re: Ryanair wins screen scraping case against Booking.com in US court ruling

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post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I fail to understand how that applies to what I said.

> fail to understand how that applies to what I said "<$1 per video transcribed" may be an order of magnitude more expensive.

More expensive than what? And how does that relate to minimum wages? And how does that relate to minimum wages with respect to gig work?

Re: Ryanair wins screen scraping case against Booking.com in US court ruling

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post #130

> the companies, which use screen-scraping software to find and resell tickets, add additional charges and make it difficult for the airline to contact passengers. AFAIK, it's impossible to resell flight tickets in EU, they are attached to real names that are checked upon boarding time. If wonder how did Booking manage to resell Ryanair tickets at scale?

By injecting the real names. Hence fraud.

Re: Ryanair wins screen scraping case against Booking.com in US court ruling

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post #130

> the companies, which use screen-scraping software to find and resell tickets, add additional charges and make it difficult for the airline to contact passengers. AFAIK, it's impossible to resell flight tickets in EU, they are attached to real names that are checked upon boarding time. If wonder how did Booking manage to resell Ryanair tickets at scale?

Do they buy-and-resell or do they just provide a front for the ticket-buying flow with their own fees added on top?

The latter.

Re: Ryanair wins screen scraping case against Booking.com in US court ruling

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I'm not sure why because Ryanair looks really good on the scrapers. I bet it drives a lot of business their way. That is of course until you add all the additional charges.

Consider the business it drives away from Ryanair by the price raise.

Re: Ryanair wins screen scraping case against Booking.com in US court ruling

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post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A big part is fees. OTAs like Booking sell the base part of flight from Ryanair and low cost airlines at the same price as the airlines but with much higher fees for luggage and extras. They hide this second part from flight search engines, so they appear cheaper when including luggage. I'm sure that a lot of dislike from low cost airlines comes from shitty OTAs rather than the airlines themselves.

Boosting this. I recently tried to use Expedia to book a flight from Vancouver to Toronto on Porter Airlines because then I could use my TD Reward points. The default prices that showed up in the results looked the same on Expedia or directly on Porter, so it didn't seem like I was losing anything. Except that base flight included no carry-on and no checked-baggage, which I needed to do. On Porter directly fixing tha…

Not that this would help now, but you might have been able to book through Expedia and then later add the luggage through the airline directly. Still can't use points on it but maybe you could have saved the points for another vacation some other time.

Re: Ryanair wins screen scraping case against Booking.com in US court ruling

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This will very likely be overturned as it flies in the face of the 9th circuit court decision on HiQ vs LinkedIn. This is in a different circuit, so it'll need to be elevated, but CFAA is absolutely the incorrect tool to be utilized here. [1] https://calawyers.org/privacy-law/ninth-circuit-holds-data-s...

Or the 9ths decision gets overturned...

Re: Ryanair wins screen scraping case against Booking.com in US court ruling

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In fact I wrote my own RyanAir scraper to get the best prices on flights (it is trivial to implement, they barely have any rate limits - in particular if you use the API endpoint where you search for flights departing from a specific airport). But I guess my scraping is a lot less, as I'm only looking for a few flights

Same here. Except my rate was sufficient to trigger throttling.

Which API requests did you use?
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