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Microsoft cutting crucial link to Gaza, Palestinians say

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Re: Microsoft cutting crucial link to Gaza, Palestinians say

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There is a symmetry, an equation if you would prefer. On the left hand side you have rights, on the right hand side you have duties. Rights = Duties Your right of presumption of innocence is your duty to respect the presumption of innocence of others. If you break this symmetry, now we can look at YOU. Why should we all respect YOUR presumption of innocence if you don't respect others? If the response is some stereot…

Given your comment and the negative note of its parent, I'm wondering if its sarcastic nature was missed or if people interacting with it did got it was intended to be a caricature but were pissed of by its actual critic of state mass surveillance and its ridiculous "think of the children" pedonazis scarecrow. I don't buy duality as you present. Two points is just an invitation and opportunity to envision interpolati…

That is a really complicated deflection that I am not going to even bother fully reading as it is flatus vocis.

The person banned from Skype could have been an American dual citizen, nondenominational Christian, calling the Gaza strip from a phone with an American flag case, while listening to country music, from a pickup truck, with multiple bald eagle tattoos, while holding a can of American light beer. Or could have been someone else. There is no way of knowing.

Re: Microsoft cutting crucial link to Gaza, Palestinians say

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Again, I already said these things. Are you looking for an argument? To say the last word? What's your point? Why link for an article from 2011? Power is out in specific areas because Hamas was in control of all civil offices and they're gone. So while the grid is back up, there's no engineers to connect the destroyed relays. The trucks are back in. The problem is on the other side of the fence https://www.npr.org/20…

I actually find it pretty odd that it isn't normal for religious people to be happy when a loved one dies. They are in a place of infinite happiness, that's awesome.

Have you ever lost someone close?

I have friends of all religions although I'm personally an atheist. Religion has very little to do with this deep sorrow. It's not about them, it's about the personal loss. It's about the suffering prior to death. It's a deep visceral human emotion that separates out psychopaths.

Based on that logic Hamas should welcome Israeli bombs and consider that a favor. But they sacrifice others rather than themselves. Their terrorists hide in tunnels away from bombings and send child couriers to do the dirty work for them. They find the poor suicidal soles and instead of getting them help, put them in a suicide vest and send them to kill innocent people. That's insanity.

Re: Microsoft cutting crucial link to Gaza, Palestinians say

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It has R&D centers and local business centers. Skype is not in Israel and there's no reason for a VoIP solution to route through a country local facility. The "complete siege" ended ages ago. Israel provides power, food etc.

Quick fact check: According to the UN, there is now a famine in Gaza because of Israel's actions: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/7/10/is-there-famine-in-... > “Israel’s intentional and targeted starvation campaign against the Palestinian people is a form of genocidal violence and has resulted in famine across all of Gaza,” 10 independent UN experts, including the special rapporteur on the right to food and the s…

Quick check: famine review committee was unable to find evidence of famine in Gaza [1]

[1] https://reliefweb.int/attachments/c6421cb7-c936-4145-af54-b7...

Re: Microsoft cutting crucial link to Gaza, Palestinians say

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I don't know about power and food since I have friends in the North who still don't have access.

How far is Israel expected to deliver the food? Right to everyone's door? A seige means the borders are closed. The current situation, for at least 6 months now is that Israel is letting food trucks through the border, more and more every day. A problem exists for that last mile inside Gaza where no one wants to distribute it because militants will straight up beat truck drivers with sticks to steal the trucks and th…

Drone and bomb attacks are delivered to doors without a problem, so... Yes.

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However, if they've adversely affected an EU resident or even worse an EU national, the DMA forces them to allow an appeal and recourse.

I'm not familiar with what army the EU has to enforce that recourse. Ultimately, rights depend on the threat or actual application of force.

DMA is enforcable by the member states of the EU rather than the EU itself. EU member states do indeed have armies.

Re: Microsoft cutting crucial link to Gaza, Palestinians say

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Quick fact check: According to the UN, there is now a famine in Gaza because of Israel's actions: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/7/10/is-there-famine-in-... > “Israel’s intentional and targeted starvation campaign against the Palestinian people is a form of genocidal violence and has resulted in famine across all of Gaza,” 10 independent UN experts, including the special rapporteur on the right to food and the s…

Quick check: famine review committee was unable to find evidence of famine in Gaza [1] [1] https://reliefweb.int/attachments/c6421cb7-c936-4145-af54-b7...

Pretty disengenious summary on your part. From the report you linked:

> Firstly, all stakeholders who use the IPC for high-level decision-making must understand that whether a Famine classification is confirmed does not in any manner change the fact that extreme human suffering is without a doubt currently ongoing in the Gaza Strip and does not in any manner change the immediate humanitarian imperative to address this civilian suffering by enabling complete, safe, unhindered, and sustained humanitarian access into and throughout the Gaza Strip, including through ceasing hostilities. All actors should not wait until a Famine classification for the current period is made to act accordingly.

> Secondly, the FRC would like to highlight that the very fact that we are unable to endorse (or not) FEWS NET’s analysis is driven by the lack of essential up to date data on human well-being in Northern Gaza, and Gaza at large. Thus, the FRC strongly requests all parties to enable humanitarian access in general, and specifically to provide a window of opportunity to conduct field surveys in Northern Gaza to have more solid evidence of the food consumption, nutrition, and mortality situation.

Re: Microsoft cutting crucial link to Gaza, Palestinians say

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I don't know about power and food since I have friends in the North who still don't have access.

How far is Israel expected to deliver the food? Right to everyone's door? A seige means the borders are closed. The current situation, for at least 6 months now is that Israel is letting food trucks through the border, more and more every day. A problem exists for that last mile inside Gaza where no one wants to distribute it because militants will straight up beat truck drivers with sticks to steal the trucks and th…

I don't think Israel cares that much about the hostages (the constant indiscriminate bombing might give a hint). But if that's true and the hostages are in the hands of Hamas, then Israel would provide food and supplies to Hamas, right?

Where are your sources about "huge piles of food just inside the Gaza border?"

Re: Microsoft cutting crucial link to Gaza, Palestinians say

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How far is Israel expected to deliver the food? Right to everyone's door? A seige means the borders are closed. The current situation, for at least 6 months now is that Israel is letting food trucks through the border, more and more every day. A problem exists for that last mile inside Gaza where no one wants to distribute it because militants will straight up beat truck drivers with sticks to steal the trucks and th…

>Right to everyone's door? There are not much of them doors left anyway. >A seige means the borders are closed. Yes, practically for close to two decades now. Sea, Air and Land.

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Re: Microsoft cutting crucial link to Gaza, Palestinians say

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Quick fact check: According to the UN, there is now a famine in Gaza because of Israel's actions: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/7/10/is-there-famine-in-... > “Israel’s intentional and targeted starvation campaign against the Palestinian people is a form of genocidal violence and has resulted in famine across all of Gaza,” 10 independent UN experts, including the special rapporteur on the right to food and the s…

Did the 10 independent experts provide any evidence for these new claims? I can not find any in the article you have provided. I believe you should confine your assertion to “high risk” as the article states. FTA: “ In its most recent evaluation, carried out last month, the IPC said Gaza remains at “high risk” of famine as the war continues and aid access is restricted, but stopped short of classifying conditions as…

> Did the 10 independent experts provide any evidence for these new claims? I

somehow they can't get their people in, because big bad Israel, and at the same time, they seem to know exactly what's going on on the ground, and can make such claims. gaza seems to be the land of logical contradictions...

Re: Microsoft cutting crucial link to Gaza, Palestinians say

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Quick check: famine review committee was unable to find evidence of famine in Gaza [1] [1] https://reliefweb.int/attachments/c6421cb7-c936-4145-af54-b7...

Pretty disengenious summary on your part. From the report you linked: > Firstly, all stakeholders who use the IPC for high-level decision-making must understand that whether a Famine classification is confirmed does not in any manner change the fact that extreme human suffering is without a doubt currently ongoing in the Gaza Strip and does not in any manner change the immediate humanitarian imperative to address thi…

What's disengenious about? They didn't find evidence of famine, and thus the claim "According to the UN, there is now a famine in Gaza" is factual wrong. The sprinkling of ideology on top of this fact doesn't change it.
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