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Post by gwd »

leni536 wrote: post #122
reaperman wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

StarCraft 2 is still competitive 14 years later. I’m not sure I’d personally have an issue with it becoming public domain but the game is still well-stewarded today. Even Brood War is still satisfactorily supported 26 years after its release. Though I think that’s definitely long enough to consider the option of public domain.

Is it the same StarCraft2 as 10 years ago, or regularly updated?

It gets regular balance updates. They've slowed quite a bit, but there was one in the last few months, and I believe the one before that was like 2 years or so. There's also the matchmaking, which is a service they provide.

The issue here isn't so much, "Are Blizzard allowed to charge for SC2?", but "What would happen if Blizzard pulled the plug on SC2 servers?" It would very much be a shame if a game like that were suddenly ripped out of the culture.

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Post by guappa »

1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #197

This is what happens when software developers sell the idea of "streaming", i.e., downloading and throwing away, instead of downloading and keeping. Meanwhile the price of offline storage has dropped precipitously as the popularity of expensive "streaming" has risen. Online storage is relatively expensive but software developers sell the idea of "cloud" storage instead of offline storage. Eventually people want to cu…

I think developers would prefer implementing the easier solution. But it doesn't give subscriptions so…

Re: 25 years of video clips gone as Paramount axes Comedy Central wesbite

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Post by Y_Y »

eru wrote: post #198
Y_Y wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the copyright system were changed so that rightsholders were guaranteed to get paid, but didn't have veto over publication, how bad would that be? The reasons people usually justify copyright protection usually centre on rewarding the creators, and I think the right to stop people seeing your work is a harder sell. There is of course a new question of how to set the price, but you could e.g. have an auction of som…

> If the copyright system were changed so that rightsholders were guaranteed to get paid, [...] How much would they get paid? What if they wanted to hold out for more? Would every piece of copyrighted material be paid the same? Or would you normalise it per sentence or per letter? Or per frame in a movie?

I dunno man, did you see what I wrote a couple of lines down? There are ways of selling things that must be sold, I mentioned auctions, but also you can get independent assessments like in the case of compulsory purchase/eminent domain.

I'm sure you could object to some particular solution I propose, but people much smarter than me have studied this kind of game theory extensively and there are a lot of options.

The normalization can be the same as licensing is done now, "per work", negotiating specific usages needn't change, except that the seller has to allow that each covered work be subject to at least one must-sell auction per e.g. year. They can even win the auction themselves if all the bids are too low.

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Post by gnicholas »

nutrie wrote: post #179
gnicholas wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Copyright does not require public publishing of the content — just "fixed in a tangible medium of expression". This would have been accomplished when the painting was created on paper.

This is exactly what I meant. That’s why I said it just one of the implications, out of many.

Ah sorry, I didn't realize your comment was in response to some hypothetical new copyright system proposed upthread.

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Post by throwinway »

acuozzo wrote: post #76
ThrowawayTestr wrote: post #2

This is why you download the things you love. Hard drives are cheap.

A hard drive sitting on a shelf is a big question mark. Will it spin-up? Who knows?! So you deal with this by having a backup. Now you have 2x the cost. But, unfortunately, you could have two hard drives not spin up. You consider an additional backup, but at this point you're at 3x the cost, so you start to reconsider letting hard drives sit on shelves. Now you're in RAID country. RAID is not a backup, but by shiftin…

I hate comments like this. This is Hacker News, we are highly tech educated and wealthy on average. I specced a 71 TB usable array that can survive losing 3 of 8 drives.

$2000. (shucked drives, but this includes the server and ECC)

If the data is invaluable, throw down a couple of these at homes of friends and family.

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Post by smcin »

mandeepj wrote: post #89

CC has a YouTube channel and a FB page. Did they delete content from their as well?

YT: https://www.youtube.com/@ComedyCentral/

I don't know, I guess you'd have to search regularly to find out.

I do see 9-11-year-old episodes of The Daily Show and Colbert Report currently on CC's YT page, yet not available on Paramount Plus. Maybe Paramount Plus will use YT to gauge which of their back-catalog there is interest for.

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Post by ncallaway »

mcmcmc wrote: post #151
ncallaway wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm pretty open to doing something like this broadly, but I think this is especially important for software. Things like video games are much harder to archive than text. Keeping them running 70 years after the death of the author is already a herculean task. Doing that, when no copies are being distributed could make that entirely impossible. The current copyright system is going to rob the public domain of many of…

What makes you think you’re entitled to other people’s work?

That’s the basic premise of copyright laws.

It’s a trade. The default state of affairs is no copyright protection.

Society has decided to trade a limited duration monopoly on the copyright of the work, in order to promote more works being created so that we have more works in the public domain.

The entire purpose of copyright is to generate works for the public domain.

So, when the current copyright system fails to do that, we should change that.

You can’t seriously tell me that if we had a law that said: if you don’t make a video game available commercially for 30 years, it enters the public domain, that would have a meaningful impact on the number of video games created.

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Post by rsanek »

vincnetas wrote: post #201
sytelus wrote: post #127

This is complete incompetence from their leadership who show no value to their own content. They could have easily auctioned off/sold very old content to someone else but that kind of thinking would be beyond their competency. It's no wonder they go in such huge losses despite of having loyal audience and monopoly over unparalleled content. To this day I cannot get over the fact that there are literally millions docu…

They're not deleting that content. They just moving it to paramount+ subscription service.

third paragraph of the article

> Unfortunately for those in search of older episodes of The Daily Show and The Colbert Report, neither can be found on Paramount+.

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Post by fifticon »

sytelus wrote: post #142
nutrie wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let’s say I make a painting and put it in the drawer, never to be seen again. Do I lose the copyright then and someone is permitted to come to my home and take it away? That’s just one example of possible implications. My point being, trademark is directly tied to the dynamics of the free market, while copyright only indirectly. And copyright is not forever.

I used to make this argument until I came to know of law (at least in USA) that if you don't use your house and someone else starts using your house then they can claim the legal ownership of your entire house in as little as 10 years! It was very shocking and complete antithesis of property rights in US that are so dearly held. When you think about this, in long run, it might sometimes make sense that future generat…

many countries have variants of this, for many years/since olden times. In my country, it is called 'hævd'. Instinctively, it makes incredibly much sense to me, even more so than property law. The way I view it, it is precisely the foundation that ownership sort of rests on. (ie, i respect 'we have been using this for a long time' more than 'our ancestors whipped everyone in the village').

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Post by dotancohen »

sytelus wrote: post #127

This is complete incompetence from their leadership who show no value to their own content. They could have easily auctioned off/sold very old content to someone else but that kind of thinking would be beyond their competency. It's no wonder they go in such huge losses despite of having loyal audience and monopoly over unparalleled content. To this day I cannot get over the fact that there are literally millions docu…

  > lot of my favorite music albums are still on cassette tapes and never digitized online by their creators.
Or worse. Rust In Peace was completely rerecorded by studio musicians and that's what you get if you look for it on Spotify or even buy a new CD today! To actually hear the album as recorded originally, you need to find a thirty-year old disc and just deal with the scratches.
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