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Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by cyanydeez »

jtriangle wrote: post #164
II2II wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I understand Microsoft has built up good will through efforts like VS Code, but it's all undone because of things like this. Someone in Microsoft should look into who is making these decisions, why these decisions are are being made, and why they are being received so negatively. Then they need to address them. Even though I'm not much of a fan of Microsoft products, I get the impression that they have some excelle…

Oh, I mean, the "why" is pretty simple. They're going to enable onedrive upload by default, wait until the sync finishes, then change the EULA to allow them to scrape everyone's onedrive for machine learning data that they can then sell. >>Welcome to hell.

Nah? Thats the next MBAs bag.

This MBAs job is to get as many copilot dailyvusers as possible and to do that they need your files in their data orbit.

Remember when dropbox had to tell everone their openai integration wad opt in.

Youre a few MBAs ahead, todays MBA just needs daily copilot users and thats onlyvfeasible with the cloud.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by cyanydeez »

IanKerr wrote: post #124
suby wrote: post #101

This happened to me. I was wondering why my internet speeds were slow when I discovered that Microsoft was in the process of uploading my users directory, they had already uploaded almost two gigs when I realized. They also changed the path to these directories to something like C:\Users\name\OneDrive\Desktop\. Another poster in this thread claimed it's easy to reverse -- I disagree, it's a pain in the ass to track d…

I'm imagining this happening to someone on a highly metered connection and blowing through gigs of their limited monthly upload budget before realizing their OS has just gone rogue on them. Treating everyone like they have an unlimited bandwidth budget and greedily using it without permission is just awful behavior.

All to sell daily users on copilot

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by lolinder »

ziddoap wrote: post #176
lolinder wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> if so, why? Have you tried installing Windows 11 without signing in to a Microsoft account? It's very difficult to do and the instructions online keep having to change as Microsoft makes it more and more difficult. What I'm finding now [0] involves using a hotkey to open command prompt at a certain part of the installation process and running a command to disable the internet before you proceed. [0] https://www.tom…

"Very difficult" is a bit of an exaggeration. Don't connect to the internet, press 1 hotkey and enter 1 line of text ("OOBE\bypassnro"). While it's absolutely stupid that it needs to be done at all, it's not "very difficult".

I think most people understood that having step 1 be "know to look up the latest Microsoft account bypass instructions" makes a process very difficult.

If we want to be really pedantic, maybe I should have said "intentionally extremely obscure"—would that phrasing be satisfactory?

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by rhdunn »

jjoergensen wrote: post #42

How is this not a compliance risk? Automatically transferring data, including personal data, to the cloud without explicit consent raises GDPR concerns.

And HIPPA, NDA, legal (lawyers storing client info/details), trade secrets, etc. issues.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by Biganon »

justsomehnguy wrote: post #135
_carbyau_ wrote: post #28

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Installed Windows 11 Pro, had to do some CLI dickery to get the option for local only account.

ITT: people complain about 'CLI dickery' in Windows but arguing for Linux. *shrug_emoji*

...yes?

Because on Windows, the CLI is used to circumvent the highly smelly patterns that Microsoft puts in your way to force you to act in a way that is financially interesting for them, even though you've paid for their shitty OS already

On Linux, the CLI (in a similar scenario) is used to... install the software. And you can probably use a GUI package manager depending on your distro.

Do you really not see the difference?

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by Multicomp »

dontdoxxme wrote: post #166
neither_color wrote: post #140

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I don't like leaving negative or hyperbolic comments on HN, but this was enraging and unacceptable to me. It's hard to convey without coming off as unhinged You're not unhinged, there's been a fundamental change in internet culture and the early 2000s free internet people are considered loony now. Ive been laughed out of Discord groups(it's what the under 30s use these days instead of chats and forums, and is itself…

I think it’s better to see it as not a shift in culture but understand that the internet represents all culture now. There are still under 30s that believe in real freedom but everyone is on the internet now, rather than a set of people that were more biased towards freedom (as that was partly what the internet represented).

Agreed. I've had to start being more selective and going to places like Agora Road and the like just to find that subculture flavor once again.

It turns out even the 2000s web 2.0 itself can have an Eternal September, who'd of thought?

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by Teever »

chx wrote: post #173
jchw wrote: post #127

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> It's hard to convey without coming off as unhinged Man. I have felt this way a whole lot lately. I think some people see Linux users and genuinely can't fathom how or why they'd want to go through all of the trouble choosing to use Linux and doing real work on it. A lot of us look back just as puzzled, because when I switched to a Linux desktop for the first time in around 2004, it was definitely a choice, but it h…

Yeah I ran Linux as my daily driver 2004-2017 and I regret it. Since then I run Windows 10 + WSL and life is good. Win10 support ends next year and I am at a complete loss at what to do. Linux desktop never worked, never will, the incentives are not there. It's only free if you don't value your time. As I wrote before , your choices are Ubuntu where an OS upgrade shatters your entire system so throughly it takes days…

Why shit on the group of people who are taking the time to create a viable alternative to the bullshit that Microsoft and Apple try and cram down our throats?

Instead of begging for help, why not be that help for someone else?

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by cyanydeez »

tomrod wrote: post #139
suby wrote: post #101

This happened to me. I was wondering why my internet speeds were slow when I discovered that Microsoft was in the process of uploading my users directory, they had already uploaded almost two gigs when I realized. They also changed the path to these directories to something like C:\Users\name\OneDrive\Desktop\. Another poster in this thread claimed it's easy to reverse -- I disagree, it's a pain in the ass to track d…

Perhaps time for me to leave VS Code. I have suitable replacements for everything else MSoft. The plug-ins ecosystem is helpful, but what the heck!

Im surprised its. Not forked yet

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by FireBeyond »

massysett wrote: post #186
chx wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah I ran Linux as my daily driver 2004-2017 and I regret it. Since then I run Windows 10 + WSL and life is good. Win10 support ends next year and I am at a complete loss at what to do. Linux desktop never worked, never will, the incentives are not there. It's only free if you don't value your time. As I wrote before , your choices are Ubuntu where an OS upgrade shatters your entire system so throughly it takes days…

Go Mac. The GUI is stable and boring: the Finder hasn’t changed much in years. It’s Unix underneath so you can use command-line stuff or dusty programs like Emacs. You can now pick up a MacBook Air at Walmart for $700. Considering the inflation we’ve had, that’s actually reasonable. It will do the Unixy stuff well. My Mac is of this same class and I’m happy with it.

I'm very happy with my Mac, but... while the key point here is the unasked for enabling of OneDrive...

Untangling synced Docs and Desktop folders between multiple Macs, and trying to revert to something akin to a default and reconcile what is in various folders, not pleasant.

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Post by hhh »

aidenn0 wrote: post #132
hhh wrote: post #116

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Yes, you can. I just now downloaded a win11 23H2 iso and installed w11 pro without going outside of the OOBE. Sure, you shouldn't have to click 'domain join instead' etc, but you can absolutely do it without doing anything outside of the OOBE. Here are the exact steps I used: https://pastebin.com/nDnLBYg2

Does the "domain join" work even if you don't have an AD server setup to join to?

yes, it just sets up a local account
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