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Post by latexr »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #157
alberth wrote: post #124

Regarding OpenAI, has Apple in its history ever relied so heavily on a 3rd party for software features? (TSMC for hardware, but it seems very un-Apple to be so dependent upon someone else for software capabilities like OpenAI)

OG iPhone had Google as Maps provider and YouTube both within Apple shells and the branding downplayed in Maps case That’s the only case I can think of where it’s an external tech you’re making requests to, usually it’s things like Rosetta made out of Apple IIRC but integrated internally

> Rosetta is made out of Apple IIRC but integrated internally

Don’t think that’s right. I think Rosetta was always made inside Apple.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosetta_(software)

Perhaps mixing it up because of Rosetta Stone?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosetta_Stone_(software)

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Post by sailingparrot »

gkoberger wrote: post #133
nottorp wrote: post #103

I have only one question: can I turn it off?

Why? Things are secure (outside of the explicit OpenAI calls via Siri) and mostly seem subtly integrated. You don't have to use each feature, but why blindly disable all AI having not even tried it?

Not wanting to send that much data to Apple's server no matter the pinky promise they make about caring for our data? That's a legit ask.

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Post by rcdemski »

throwanem wrote: post #128
Tagbert wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like that they finally brought typing interaction to Siri. You won't always need to use voice. This does look like a real-world implementation of the concept promoted by Rabbit. Apple already had the App Intents API mechanism in place to give them the hooks into the apps. They have also publish articles about their Ferret UI LLM that can look at an app's UI and figure out how to interact with it, if there are no av…

Text as a Siri interface has been available for a while now. Long-press the sleep/wake button to raise the prompt.

It has, but it’s presently an accessibility affordance you have to enable first. It’s found under device Settings > Accessibility > Siri > “Type to Siri” On/Off

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Post by terramex »

TIPSIO wrote: post #127

So the future of computing really is AI agents doing everything: - siri text chat now on the lock screen - incoming a billion developer app functions/APIs - better notifications - can make network requests Why even open any other app?

> Why even open any other app?

This was my first thought when I saw Rabbit r1 - will all of us become backend developers just glueing various API between legacy services and LLMs? Today seems like another step in that direction.

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Post by gigel82 »

davidbarker wrote: post #143

So, if I've got this correct there's: 1. On-device AI 2. AI using Apple's servers 3. AI using ChatGPT/OpenAI's services (and others in the future) Number 1 will pass to number 2 if it thinks it requires the extra processing power, but number 3 will only be invoked with explicit user permission. [Edit: As pointed out below, other providers will be coming eventually.]

The problem is they don't explicitly define when 1 can pass to 2 and whether we can fully and categorically disable it. As far as I know, 1 can pass to 2 when governments ask for some personal data or when Apple's ad model needs some intimate details for personalization.

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Post by mvkel »

Kind of wild that "ChatGPT" is going to be the household term. It's such a mouthful! Goes to show that the name can kind of be anything if you have an incredible product and/or distribution.

Lobbying for the name to shorten to "chatty-g"

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by nerdjon »

Said this in the other thread, but I am really bothered that image generation is a thing but also that it got as much attention as it did.

I am worried about the reliability, if you are relying on it giving important information without checking the source (like a flight) than that could lead to some bad situations.

That being said, the polish and actual usefulness of these features is really interesting. It may not have some of the flashiest things being thrown around but the things shown are actually useful things.

Glad that ChatGPT is optional each time Siri thinks it would be useful.

My only big question is, can I disable any online component and what does that mean if something can't be processed locally?

I also have to wonder, given their talk about the servers running the same chips. Is it just that the models can't run locally or is it possibly context related? I am not seeing anything if it is entire features or just some requests.

I wonder if that implies that over time different hardware will run different levels of requests locally vs the cloud.

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